The fuller the bun, the better, and creating the perfect bun can be challenging.
It might be time to shift your focus from curl pattern...
When I saw this tutorial in my YouTube feed, my hair leaped with joy.
Ask people what they are doing, not just what are they using.
If you want to relax your hair because it's easier, read this first and make an informed decision.
Everybody loves these products and techniques, but they did NOT work for me.