I never said everyone that is poor is lazy. I'm saying I don't want the poor to stay poor. I want to help them to NOT be poor anyone. I want them to learn to get out of that. And welfare has not been doing that. Before e had welfare, when we as a country believed in values people did help each other. But having the welfare state has pushed us farther from that.

So let me ask you this. If you say that you don't want to see someone stave because they are lazy, are you ok with them staying that way? Do you not want them to better themselves?

I didn't say to do away with helping, I'm saying what we are doing now isn't working. It's not helping them.