The only time I get grab from conditioners is if they have protein or panthenol or something else that is drying. That is not a good grab at all! That is craptastic grab.
I want slip and smoothness in my leave in. No grabbing. My curls from well enough with that.
, though, does have grab for me. I just call it hold.
I've been using Curl Junkie Curl Rehab as my winter leave-in quite often, and I get no grab, just smoothness. Smooth, soft, hold-my-cuticle-down smoothness.
This might be a 2 vs 3 things, or a protein lover vs protein hater thing, or some other random unknown thing.