No crunch for me. Normally, I get crunch from ANY gel. That is why I hate to give up on it, the zero crunch is great. I might buy the kids version of the gel because it supposively has more hold. I probably got somewhere in-between skinny & chunky. I have definitely gotten skinnier curls, but I prefer a bigger, looser curl & I didn't get that with this gel - again, my hair might be an exception (see my fotki for photos of my hair - the photos were taken using different products, not the mop top). Today, it looks better than it did yesterday (less frizz), but I left the conditioner in & used a lot more of the gel. Just does not feel like it's enough hold in some parts of my hair.