Right. I was going to put that to the test. Maybe my post was worded wrong. I was voicing what I believe: which is that an acv rinse probably isn't necessary with the right ph product - especially one containing citric acid. I've used a soap bar, so I know that something is needed to close the cuticle - my logic is that it isn't necessarily a stinky acv rinse. It seemed like you were thinking along the same lines... I'll just see for myself.