lol All i can say is that i have wet dreams about shoulder-length curly hair. I'm 4a and with the shrinkage I get, I may not reach that goal until my stretched hair reaches APL...or longer.

Right now, I'm collar bone when stretched. I wish us both luck.
Originally Posted by naturalnewb
Just stumbled across this post and realized how naive I was. If I stretch my hair now, I'm APL...and I'm not even close to shoulder length when curly. My thick 4a hair will need MUUUCH more length to be SL when curly.