President Obama is so upitty
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02-29-2012, 12:29 PM
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I had a long response typed and lost it due to techinical issues with this board - very frustrating (and why I tend not to post here much any more) - I mainly just wanted to say that I don't understand, sienna, that you think it's a "dumb" statement that college is not for everyone, then say you worship blue collar workers. I'm confused at the contradiction. Also, just because your autistic cousin can handle college means
can? There are "no excuses?" I think that's really offensive, actually. Your family sets the standard for everyone? Also, "learning what your passion is".... people don't "learn" passion. Many people have passions that don't translate into a job, so they have to find alternatives. For some people, a job is just a job. Also, many people cannot do what they would like to do, for whatever reason. It's just not as easy as sitting in school for 4 years, and popping into a dream job right after graduation.
Much of my family is blue collar, laid off long ago from an auto plant. That auto plant was their livelihood, and some of them, like my uncle have struggled to find work they can do. They were offered the chance to go to school after being laid off, but they turned it down. I don't think my uncle in particular has the mental ability to do much but manual work, which is what he does. I suppose many of you think people like this are stupid and worthless for not living up to your lofty standards, but I think it takes people of all kinds to run the world. I think there
a place for blue collar workers. Obama thinks this, too, or else he wouldn't have done the bailouts. He wouldn't be funding the re-emergence of a plant in my hometown area. Maybe it's just wanting the votes, but I don't think so. I think it's wrong to stereotype him as some lofty man living in a Harvard Law bubble. It's ironic how that got everyone in a huff when Santorum expressed it when you guys are basically putting the same labels on him. It's not true - Obama does seem to see value in having a working class in America. IMO, it is essential. There are many people who aren't going to work and will resort to crime or whatever they have to do to survive. But, if there was a wider array of jobs for them, maybe it would keep at least some of them off the streets. I guess this is something a lot of you are fortunately far away from.
Ohio and Michigan have such crime and (stagnant) poverty because they were once manufacturing centers, and many of those people don't have the resources to transplant or the capacity to "do more with their lives." I agree with Ninjadog that building the middle class is important, but so many people in the middle class, like myself, have middle class job titles but now make working class wages. It seems the rich and poor disconnect is increasing, and it just seems like the most approachable solution is to bring back more working class jobs that a wider array of people can do. I see that happening, and I hope it becomes a growing trend. I think that is what Santorum was going for, but his mistake was labeling Obama and making it sound like all of Michigan belongs to one class. It takes all kinds, working together. Some of my favorite bosses and most successful bosses were ones without college degrees who learned their trade from their families, and I've had bosses with 2x my education who weren't worth a )(*^. It takes all kinds, working together.
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