Yeah, upside down was killing my neck (and sinuses) so I started doing upright, and low and behold - the clumps held up! I guess for my hair setting the clumps where the live work better than setting them and then flipping up.
I don't do a single bit of it upside down (except on very rare occasions I'll apply stylets that way), and iget great results. I do clip the roots for volume, tho.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.
Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing