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Old 04-22-2010, 09:19 AM   #1
 
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Hi! I have been trying to go CG for about a month now. I have had random success. My hair is not dry has normal porosity, but is very fine. God forbid it's windy. No poo works fine, but I can't find anything that hods my style. Tried Angel, Arc Angel, LALSG, and HETT gel. Finish with Deva set up and above. Hair is too soft. Any suggestions. Thanks. Think I am a 2a.
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:09 PM   #2
 
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I love BRHG. It has a super hard hold. Other hard hold gels include Spiral Solutions FHG, HE SMU, & CHI.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:21 AM   #3
 
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I wanted to thank you for the suggestions. I also read the thread on Ecostyler. I tried the ecostyler with the HESMU gel this morning. Hair is not as fly away, however I think I used to much ecostyler. What amount do you use - pea size, dime size, quarter size, palm full. I am really new at this. I was using alot of Angel and Arc Angel. Thanks. I will try to post some pictures soon.

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Old 04-30-2010, 01:57 PM   #4
 
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Unfortunately the amount of product you need is highly individual. The only way to know for sure is to experiment. I'd guess most people use between a dime size and a palm full of ecostyler. I need a lot of product.
I use about 2 tsp (maybe more) of ecostyler. I pixie diffuse halfway, wet my hands, and then add about 2 tsp of brhg and finish pixie diffusing.
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:43 PM   #5
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Unfortunately the amount of product you need is highly individual. The only way to know for sure is to experiment. I'd guess most people use between a dime size and a palm full of ecostyler. I need a lot of product.
I use about 2 tsp (maybe more) of ecostyler. I pixie diffuse halfway, wet my hands, and then add about 2 tsp of brhg and finish pixie diffusing.
I use 2 pea sizes i spread it all over my hands and then scrunch... I use the 2 pea sizes individually inbetween a pea size of condish...
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:50 PM   #6
 
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I use a ton of product, so take my recommendation with a grain of salt, but I use about a palmful of Ecostyler over CIAB (probably about two teaspoons worth?) and under BRHG or HESMU (about a quarter sized of each).

I'm pretty porous though, and my curl pattern needs the hold or it pulls out while getting large and in charge (especially in the higher dews).
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:18 PM   #7
 
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I used to (and to some extent still) struggle with the same issues. I've found, though, that my hair has begun to hold it's style better the longer I'm CG. I think my hair was initially having trouble keeping its shape because it wasn't moisturized enough. Now, when I feel my hair is fuzzing out, I do a protein treatment and/or deep condition and that seems to really help.

Also, I've found that I generally need to use a lot more product than I would expect and that gels with stiff hold give me the best curls. People tend to assume that wavies would need less product than people with really curly hair, but I think it's the opposite-- Curly hair has a strong pattern and naturally keeps itself in a coil, but wavy hair needs lots of help to hold its shape. I really like Garnier Fructis Curl Shaping spray gel-- it gives me good hold without weighing my hair down. I usually use it as a finisher after I've applied a light/watery gel and/or a curl cream.
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Old 05-01-2010, 07:49 AM   #8
 
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Thanks every one. I guess I just have to keep experimenting. My hair was definitely better yesterday. I even woke up with some curl, odd for me. I will keep you posted.
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