Spin off thread: The wavy imposter, it is not just you.

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me too. If I got out of the shower and just combed my hair, it would look totally STUPID. I have to scrunch curl into it. It does not have that springy kind of curls that 3B's have and I wished I had. Someone with talent could blow dry ny hair stick straight - I used to wear it like that when I was a girl - but its cut in the long layers, and so when I work at it, I "pass" - as a curlie!
Since I cut my hair to chin-length I definitely am a wavy imposter! I somehow forgot that my waves don't really start until between my eyebrows and ears; and at this length they look less like waves and more like just messy hair. So I've actually just been wearing it straight -- I'm still CG as far as washing and products, but instead of scrunching I've been putting in Eco-Styler and then finger combing it straight. It dries pretty much straight and non-frizzy.

I am missing my waves, but on the bright side is that if I wear it straight I can definitely have 2nd (and 3rd) day hair whereas with it wavy it usually would be too wonky and/or frizzy and needed to be wet down and re-gelled every morning.
2a/b right now; 2c when it's longer
Fine/iii density/high porosity

Current favorites:
Suave Naturals Coconut co-wash
GVP Protein Restructuring Conditioner
GVP Conditioning Balm
Eco-Styler, LALSG, BRHG, Garnier Curl Shaping Spray Gel
ACV rinse 1x per week
I'm new to the 2 boards and just found this thread. Wow, SO glad I'm not the only one who feels as if I'm just pretending I have wavy hair! Most of the time it'll dry with some kind of curl, but when it doesn't, I find myself wondering whether I have straight hair. I need to encourage my curl to make it show up. If I just brush it out after the shower and let it dry, I will get a few waves, but it will be mostly straight. But if I add gel and plop, I will get nice waves. I used to wonder why I always had tiny little spirals around my temples, and the rest was straight after I brushed my hair and whipped all the wave out with a blowdryer. DUH!!! I had always wanted wavy hair, because I seriously believed it was straight. Guess I got my wish! So glad I'm in the company of others who feel the same way and can relate to me (and my hair!) Thanks for starting this thread, Pedaheh. I think we all feel a lot better now. If we ARE wavy imposters, at least we can be wavy imposters with others who have the same hair!
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
wavynwild16 I'm new to the 2 boards and just found this thread. Wow, SO glad I'm not the only one who feels as if I'm just pretending I have wavy hair! Most of the time it'll dry with some kind of curl, but when it doesn't, I find myself wondering whether I have straight hair. I need to encourage my curl to make it show up. If I just brush it out after the shower and let it dry, I will get a few waves, but it will be mostly straight. But if I add gel and plop, I will get nice waves. I used to wonder why I always had tiny little spirals around my temples, and the rest was straight after I brushed my hair and whipped all the wave out with a blowdryer. DUH!!! I had always wanted wavy hair, because I seriously believed it was straight. Guess I got my wish! So glad I'm in the company of others who feel the same way and can relate to me (and my hair!) Thanks for starting this thread, Pedaheh. I think we all feel a lot better now. If we ARE wavy imposters, at least we can be wavy imposters with others who have the same hair!
I can't take credit for this thread. All I did was move a discussion that already was going on to its own thread.
I am glad we found a way to bring the "imposters" out of the shadows. Its O.K. We are wavy too.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Hey fellow "Imposters"-
When you get a chance, can you post to this thread?
How do you deal with a weak wave pattern?
I thought we could start a thread with specific ideas on how to deal with a weak wave pattern.
Thanks
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
I love love love this thread. I've always had a bit of a wave to my hair, but hairstylists always referred to it as a "problem"- they'd give me these super-cute hairstyles for straight-haired people, and then would look at me with disdain when I'd ask how to style it without using the round brush, hairdrier, etc. (I never could get the hang of the round brush- I resorted to using a curling iron to pull it straight). When I did try to blow out the wave, there was always this one section of my hair that would invariably curl in a weird way- even the hairdressers had to take a curling iron or flat iron to it.

I love the description of "hair horns"! When my hair is all one length, I get "triangle head" but when I'd get layers I'd get pieces sticking up in all different directions- ala hair horns.

I also have a weird wave pattern. My entire head wants to curl in the same direction. So this leaves me with hair on the left side of my head curling towards the back of my head and hair on the right side of my head curling toward my face. When it is in layers is it very obvious that the two sides are doing opposite things! By embracing CG I'm hoping to learn to love my wave and not fight it.
2b, oily scalp, dry hair, thick (iii), medium texture, medium porosity,low elasticity- prone to canopy frizz!
modified CG since 8/29/10
currently using:
low-poo: DevaCurl Low Poo (in summer)
no-poo: DevaCurl No Poo (in winter)
co-wash and LI: DevaCurl One Condition
styler: DevaCurl AnGEL (in winter), Nancy Boy gel (in summer- has no glycerin)
Pixie diffuse upside down til just damp, clip the hell out of it, and let air dry (or use bonnet dryer), SOTC
What a wonderful thread! I'm also new to CG and have blown my hair straight for many years. My "naked" hair is barely wavy except for ringlets that form underneath. I'm so confused about what products to use to enhance that wavy imposter hair!
Type: FIA's 2c w/2b canopy; M II ; Mod CG & PJ since Sept 2010
Experimenting with a lot of products
I've been feeling more like a wavy impostor lately because the dry air makes my hair straighter. But I was looking through old Facebook pictures from back when I straightened every day, and if this isn't a wavy in denial, I don't know what is:



Excuse the pained expression, I was really sunburned. That was air dried after going swimming, so as close to "naked" as it gets. And I still thought this was uncooperative "straight" hair! I was 15 when that picture was taken, and kept straightening for another five years.
2a, very fine, very thick, protein-loving, not especially porous. cg since july 2010.

cleanse: cj daily fix, vo5 vanilla mint tea
condition: marie dean anything, db pumpkin seed, cj curl assurance, cj beauticurls
style: cj beauticurls leave-in, cj curl queen, cj cccc lite, kccc, homemade fsg, db coconut & hibiscus oil, ecostyler
treatments: ss repairing protein, ss deeply decadent
techniques: icequeen, plopping, scrunching upside down, pixie diffusing
It's so nice to find everyone feels the same as I. I only this summer discovered my hair has natural curl and wave - definitely wurly. As a child, my mother would have my hair perm-fried for the beginning of school and would then pull it back in a ponytail or "pig-tails". Then for special occasions, she would curl it with these rubbery split rollers (she called them banana curlers) and I'd have Shirley Temple curls. High school meant long, split-down-middle part, curled on orange juice can-sized rollers to try and avoid the frizz. As soon as I married in the mid-70s, I cut my hair so short, the top stood up cheering. Then came the perms - my hair was very resistant to perms. I scared many hair dressers. They would finally give up and neutralize my hair because they were afraid it was going to burn and break off. I finally gave up and just cut it short - really short - for many, many years. When I found myself widowed a couple of years ago, I started letting it grow out. The growing out came from disinterest, I think, but if I hadn't let it grow, I would never have discovered the wurls. The longer is grew, the more difficult it was to handle. I would blow dry it, curling iron it, flat-iron it and would end up with a big, frizzy mess, only to give up and pull it back into a pony tail or bun. I kept trying for the sleek, smooth, straight hair all the young women wore in my office. I was convinced the frizz was just because I was old and so was my hair. A couple of months ago, I started looking for answers on the internet and discovered this message board. What a remarkable education you all have provided for me! Thanks for all the help. I'm still experimenting with products. The research has been fun. My son lives with me and he's tired of listening to me. He's only 22 yrs old and almost bald on top, so I've got to give it a rest when he's around. My older son has gorgeous, curly, hair which he wears very long. We've always wondered where he got his curls. I've found a curl cream and spray gel and plopping works best for me. I diffuse the back and sides and clip the top. Here's where I feel like an imposter. I clip the top into almost pin-curls and clip with a jaw-type clip. When people ask me if I've gotten a perm or if it's my natural hair, I enjoy answering that it's my natural hair - I just don't elaborate on how much encouragement my "natural hair" requires. Does this make me an imposter? Possibly - but I'm not lying. Every morning when I wake up, spray that cold, cold water on my frizzy mess and curl it up in a t-shirt, I'm afraid when I un-do the t-shirt, the wurls will have given up, but so far, they haven't failed me yet. Sorry this is so long. Again, thanks to all of you for your tips, tricks and commaradarie (sic).
Just come out of hibernation (again!)... I am definitely a wavy imposter. On 16 September 2010, I had my hair spiral permed. Definitely no horror story here though - perhaps I got lucky! I absolutely love my hair at the moment. People that I have never met have tapped me on the shoulder, and paid me compliments about my hair, something which I rarely received before taking the plunge. I am so proud of the young lady (22) who performed this service. There was a reason why I put myself through this though. I had hair extensions applied two days prior (14 September), and the weaker curls simply did not match my own natural curls. It looked really odd for those two days. Either the extensions had to go (no chance of that!) or some heavy duty curls had to be created.

So there you have it - another wavy imposter story! I will upload a newer Avatar pic in the near future.

Would I put myself through this again? Most likely not as I am not one to tempt fate - and I do not believe it could ever be this good again. But at least now having been through the experience myself, I can offer advice to anyone considering having it done.
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Location: Queensland, Australia
Gender: Male – straight (and single)
Hair type: 3b - long(er), natural redhead and proud of it!
Cleanse: mop c-system clean shampoo - sulphate free (once a week)
Condition: mop mixed greens moisture conditioner
Leave-in: Joico leave-in detangler
Styling: Redken Fresh Curls curl refiner cream, Murray’s pomade (sparingly!)
Treatment: Redken All Soft Heavy Cream

Definitely a brush-free zone - finger waving rules ‹(•¿•)›
I feel like an impostor because if I just washed and let air dry, no product or blow dryer, my hair would barely have any wave. But it would still have a little too much wave to be "straight" hair so...basically it just looks bad if I don't do anything to it. It's not wavy or straight, just some awkward ugly middle ground.

But then, either way I guess I'm an impostor! If I straighten it, that's not my real texture either. And if I have to do SOMETHING to my hair, I'd rather it turn out wavy than straight.
2b (with some straight under-layer, grrrrr)
Normal porosity, low elasticity, medium texture

(according to CurlGenie - HUGE surprise, I always thought I had fine hair and my stylists always agreed)

Tried CG for a summer, but it wasn't for me. I don't load up on sulfates and silicones, but I have no shame in using them when I want/need to! Currently loving LOOB.
This thread made me curious, so instead of blowing my hair straight (which I do about every three washings or so because I like variety), I put my hair up in a towel, then took it down to observe what it looked like with no product. Turns out, right now, I'm getting loose beach waves. So I'm experimenting. I put a little mousse in it, and I'm going to see what happens. I suspect it'll wave, but it might frizz once it's dry. I think the gel is what gives me true waves/curls, and fights the frizz. I took a couple of pics of it wet with no product, and I'll put them in my fotki.
2c/3a with 2b underlayer. Fine, porous. Loves protein. But not hydrolized wheat protein. Yuck.

Wash: WEN Sweet Almond Mint or Pomegranate
Gels: LA Looks Sport Gel
Mousse: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque
Curling creams/gellies: Coffee Coco Curling Cream Lite, Spiral Solutions Curl Enhancing Jelly, Curls Gel-les'c
SOTC: JC N&S (LOVE)
http://public.fotki.com/wavyblonde/hair-2010/
Naturally scraggly reminds me of how I used to (still do sometimes - its a hard transition) refer to my hair. People would ask me if its naturally curly (I used to always use a curling iron because its too coarse to flat-iron) and I'd reply that it wasn't naturally curly - it was naturally crappy!

I'm starting to have a more positive outlook about my hair!
I'd reply that it wasn't naturally curly - it was naturally crappy!
Originally Posted by wildnwavy
LOL- this is SO funny! I think I'm going to co-opt that phrase from you wildnwavy.
2b, oily scalp, dry hair, thick (iii), medium texture, medium porosity,low elasticity- prone to canopy frizz!
modified CG since 8/29/10
currently using:
low-poo: DevaCurl Low Poo (in summer)
no-poo: DevaCurl No Poo (in winter)
co-wash and LI: DevaCurl One Condition
styler: DevaCurl AnGEL (in winter), Nancy Boy gel (in summer- has no glycerin)
Pixie diffuse upside down til just damp, clip the hell out of it, and let air dry (or use bonnet dryer), SOTC
I feel like an impostor because if I just washed and let air dry, no product or blow dryer, my hair would barely have any wave. But it would still have a little too much wave to be "straight" hair so...basically it just looks bad if I don't do anything to it. It's not wavy or straight, just some awkward ugly middle ground.

But then, either way I guess I'm an impostor! If I straighten it, that's not my real texture either. And if I have to do SOMETHING to my hair, I'd rather it turn out wavy than straight.
Originally Posted by KeLynn
+1
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Oh my gosh, I'm so relieved to see this thread. I have been afraid to post for so long and only recently found the courage to post pictures. I thought you'd all laugh at me when I claimed to have curly or wavy hair! Even I wasn't sure if I really had wavy hair or if it was just scraggly (perfect word), but looking at these posts I'm starting to think I'm in good company and I feel a little more confident to not give up on making waves (something I haven't quite perfected yet). Maybe there needs to be a new hair type: 1a--Scraggly and scruffy?
Oh my gosh, I'm so relieved to see this thread. I have been afraid to post for so long and only recently found the courage to post pictures. I thought you'd all laugh at me when I claimed to have curly or wavy hair! Even I wasn't sure if I really had wavy hair or if it was just scraggly (perfect word), but looking at these posts I'm starting to think I'm in good company and I feel a little more confident to not give up on making waves (something I haven't quite perfected yet). Maybe there needs to be a new hair type: 1a--Scraggly and scruffy?
Originally Posted by loremipsum
SEE??? So glad you found this thread-I knew that it would make you feel better! You are in GOOD company!
I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
CG since 7/1/2010

Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
Condition: DevaCurl OC
LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
Curl Enhancer:
CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler,CJRM
If I get out of the shower and run a comb or brush or fingers through my hair, it'll end up straight. This is especially true when my hair is shorter than chin length. It seems, though that I may have a wave or curl that starts there - if I do, it's coffee can sized! Bobs looked stupid on me because one side curves under and the other side curves out! And I have cowlicks all over the back of my head.

However, I tried scrunching my hair after my shower yesterday, and I got a definite wave!!! I'll have to experiment with holding products (I've always hated products, but the prospect of waves make me excited!!!)

Do you think the noPoo method is especially important or not important for wavy impostors?
Maybe there needs to be a new hair type: 1a--Scraggly and scruffy?
Originally Posted by loremipsum
I am not alone anymore.
2b/F/ii canopy/front, with a bit of 2c/M-C/ii behind the ears and at the nape. Low elasticity, mixed porosity.

Lo-poo: GTTT
Co-wash/condition: GTTT, Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut, GF Triple Nutrition Fortifying Cream
LI: KCKT, Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut
Style: KCCC, FSG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel
Just had to comment on this older post. I am totally in this boat too. I spent years trying to "fix" the spots that would not stay straight in my bob and in bangs. Finally realized it is not straight about 15 yrs ago and i have been experimenting on it since.

I can coax out a few ringlets but I am mostly waves. My hair will straighten overnight too. Without product and scrunching I have goofy messy hair.

Sometimes though I feel I go the other direction and follow techniques and use products that are meant for much curlier hair. Needless to say that often leaves me frustrated and sad about my not quite curls. I really need to stop trying to make more curls and embrace the waves I have.
~Chiara~
Using FIA: 2b/2a mix with a few ringlets in the canopy, straighter in the under layer by my neck. Thin in density, fine strands. Normal porosity. Hennaed.

Go To's: Aveda, Lush

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