Spin off thread: The wavy imposter, it is not just you.

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This was a great read! I started the CG method in February after a curly friend insisted that I had wavy hair and to stop torturing myself by straightening it. So, the next time I had my haircut I mentioned it to my stylist and she said "You have tons of curl/wave. Didn't you know that?"

Apparently, I didn't. My hair was basically straight for the first 15 years of my life. After puberty, it changed a bit, but I wore it long and pulled back. It was until I had kids that my hair really took on a new texture. So, I have spent the last 6 years trying to figure out what to do with my hair.

My hair was healthy before, but I LOVE it now. It is even healthier and now that I have stopped trying to fight it, it feels more like "me". I think we wavies have the best of both worlds!
I spent the first almost 21 years of my life with stick straight hair. I chopped it all off when I was 17 but decided to grow it out a few years later. Once it really started growing in, I was shocked to find that there was a waviness to my hair now. The longer it got the wavier it got. Since I kept cutting then growing my hair, I went though a bunch of stages of trying different methods to style it. I went mod CG this past December and am definitely loving having more defined waves. I look forward to seeing how much more hair will change and the new stuff I can learn here on NC!
2a, fine-med. text, normal porosity (I think)

[FONT=Going back and forth between Herbal Essence Don't Fade On Me shampoo and condish and L'oreal Sulfate Free shampoo

Stylers-
- Not Your Mother's Curl Cream, La Bella Sports Gel, Aussie Sprunch Spray

[/COLOR][/FONT] [I][B]My waves are finally getting stronger thanks to weekly PTs and longer hair in general. Still trying to grow it out though!

mod-CG since December '10

I have Celiac's Disease so no gluten please!

My hair is basically my hobby!!

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Sooo glad I'm not the only one !
I too started the mod CG method just to cope with my super-dry, frizzy hair... When I started wearing it wavy I got the question "Wow, what did you do to your hair?"... I answered "This is how my hair is, if cared for correctly", but always felt like an impostor when i did...
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Totally reviving this old thread. I don't feel like a "wavy" imposter as much as a curly imposter. I've always known I had curly hair, never once believed it was messy-straight. If I get out of the shower, even if I rake my hair with product, it will wave. It's not the strongest and it's a frizzy mess, but it's not straight.

If I blow dry it without a diffuser and with no product, it dries almost straight.

However, as a child I had 3a/3b ringlets, bouncy, full of volume, that I didn't know how to care for. If I knew then what I know now!! Instead, I fought it my whole life, relaxed it, straightened it - was looking for that loose beachy wave look. Now, I'm stuck with the beachy wave and wish I had my spirals back! That's why I plop and scrunch and don't ever rake - I lose what few spirals I've managed to restore thus far.
fine, thin, normal/(low?) porosity. Mod-CG. Usually I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & sometimes I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.

Co-wash: VO5 Volumizing
Poo: Giovanni 50:50
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal, Alba Coconut
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone), Curls Rock Strong Hold Mousse
Gels: SCC spray gel

Thanks for reviving this old thread! I just got done reading the whole thing -- and had so many "ah ha!" moments and laughs of recognition!

I'm turning 40 in a few weeks, and have always thought that I had straight hair that was just poufy and full of cowlicks. I've always HATED my hair, and started keeping it cut super short (pixie cuts) in high school and college. The longest it ever got was a few inches past my ears in a short bob, and then I'd have to flat iron to try to get it to behave.

Last year, my stylist encouraged me to grow it out -- and I discovered my waves! I found this website and the CG method back in December 2010 -- and it has seriously changed my life! My hair has actual waves in it, and friends and work colleagues ask me all the time if I've had it permed. I have never, ever liked my hair before -- and now I actually LOVE it and get compliments all the time on it!

That being said, I still have felt like an impostor since I have to work so hard to get the wave in. With no product or technique, it dries pretty much in soft beach waves, and if I don't put in tons of BRGH, it gets really straight by the second or third day.

It's so great to read threads like these! I appreciate this site and all the great ideas so much!
Mod-CG since December 2010.
Hair type: NC: 2A; FIA: 2cFii; Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity
Cleansing: CJ Cleansing Conditioner, Trader Joe's Tea Tree, or Deva No Poo
Daily conditioner: Deva One C or CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Hair Cond or GPB
Styling products: Deva B'Leave In + Deva Curl Cream + AnGel; or
SS CEJ + BRHG; or AG: Recoil + BRHG; or KCKT + KCCC + BRHG
Treatments: SS protein treatment or CJ Curl Fix or Nexxus Emergencee + CJ Curl Rehab

The times I most felt like a wavy imposter is the two times I had the audacity to go for a "curly do". I once went for just a curly style (wash and diffuse with product) at a curly salon in Toronto (forget the name). While there I bought a bunch of Deva products. I just wanted to know if my frizz could translate to curl. Not very well.

The second time I went was for a trim at Johnathan Torch (also in Toronto). He's the Curl Keeper guy. My hair looked FABULOUS when done...but I was just so uncomfortable with my weak wave pattern in the middle of all these women with like type 4 curls. Such a poseur! I haven't gone back.

That, and I used to regularly see someone in Toronto for my hair and I really didn't want to go down that road again. It's a 4hour train ride to go to the salon.

My siggie says I don't care if my hair is straight or curly...but that's not REALLY true. I'd like it if I didn't feel like such an imposter pretending to have curly hair when I shop for products or join a discussion (or even wear it wavy). Truly straight or, definitely curly would be preferable from that standpoint.
2a(?)/F/ii (Fia).
New to having waves. Don't care if it's curly or not but this surface frizz drives me NUTS.
Baby Fine. On the thin side of average. Low porosity.
Atopic dermatitis/eczema. Too many allergies and sensitivities to count.
Wow, all the darn "curl anxiety" makes me sad.
Wavy is wavy.
Wavy is not an inadequate curl, a wave is a loose curl - an impressionistic curl. Botticelli painted waves! Venus de Milo? Wavy! (you know, the naked woman on the half-shell painting)
We don't look at the ocean and say, well those waves aren't very curly.
Wavy is undulating hair, it curves, it wraps around itself sometimes. It bends and has movement and bounce and shine.
Waves can be worn as waves. They're good enough as is.

What we need is a whole paradigm for waves. "WG" if you like!
I have been meaning for a while to start collecting pictures of wavy hair - I'll put them on my blog as I go because I think we need to reassure ourselves that waves are a real hair texture and there are many kinds of waves and they're all wavylicious.

Hugs for wavies!
http://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/
What we need is a whole paradigm for waves. "WG" if you like!
I have been meaning for a while to start collecting pictures of wavy hair - I'll put them on my blog as I go because I think we need to reassure ourselves that waves are a real hair texture and there are many kinds of waves and they're all wavylicious.

Hugs for wavies!
Originally Posted by IAgirl
Aw, what a great idea, IAgirl! I love the idea of being a WG!

And hugs all around!
Mod-CG since December 2010.
Hair type: NC: 2A; FIA: 2cFii; Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity
Cleansing: CJ Cleansing Conditioner, Trader Joe's Tea Tree, or Deva No Poo
Daily conditioner: Deva One C or CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Hair Cond or GPB
Styling products: Deva B'Leave In + Deva Curl Cream + AnGel; or
SS CEJ + BRHG; or AG: Recoil + BRHG; or KCKT + KCCC + BRHG
Treatments: SS protein treatment or CJ Curl Fix or Nexxus Emergencee + CJ Curl Rehab

Wow, all the darn "curl anxiety" makes me sad.
Wavy is wavy.
Wavy is not an inadequate curl, a wave is a loose curl - an impressionistic curl. Botticelli painted waves! Venus de Milo? Wavy! (you know, the naked woman on the half-shell painting)
We don't look at the ocean and say, well those waves aren't very curly.
Wavy is undulating hair, it curves, it wraps around itself sometimes. It bends and has movement and bounce and shine.
Waves can be worn as waves. They're good enough as is.

What we need is a whole paradigm for waves. "WG" if you like!
I have been meaning for a while to start collecting pictures of wavy hair - I'll put them on my blog as I go because I think we need to reassure ourselves that waves are a real hair texture and there are many kinds of waves and they're all wavylicious.

Hugs for wavies!
Originally Posted by IAgirl
WG! I love it! It would be great to have a "method" or book devoted to wavies! I think we get lost in the mix most of the time since it seems like our hair can go either way.
http://www.facebook.com/sweetcurlselixirs
So here is what I mean when I say my hair is easy to straighten. The first pic was taken a few weeks ago with my normal styling methods.
Here is what I did for the pic today. I combed in leave in conditioner, squeezed out moisture with a microfiber towel. I added mousse to the roots and blew just the roots dry to add volume. I added FSG to the damp length, finger combed and let dry. Essentially my hair will dry this straight when combed straight and left to dry.
I feel like my hair is both/neither naturally straight and naturally wavy, hence a bit of an imposter.
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http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers

Last edited by pedaheh; 09-10-2011 at 06:16 PM.
double post
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers

Last edited by pedaheh; 09-10-2011 at 06:15 PM.
Wow Pedaheh, that's pretty stunning either way. (And that is a killer look you're giving the camera). It would also be really gorgeous if you sort of combined the two - smooth on top (I love how it has that little "sweep" back from the hairline!) and just bendy on the ends (barely scrunch).

Your hair is as fine and soft as my sister's. I got to "wavy her up" with protein FSG and ArcAngel when she was here last month. Her hair has a very delicate wave pattern too. (See - not wavy imposter, "delicate wave pattern!" It's all how you frame it). It was very cute. She was surprised. I was squealing over the little waves that appeared. Her 7 year old came over and said to her mom, "Hi curly!"

If my hair dries "naked" it still waves and curls, but much less defined and tends to fly around. Sometimes it's cute (if I do say so myself) big waves with curly ends and goofy half-spirals or huge clumps. Products really give us the definition and clumps. I think soooo many wavies never discover their waves because waves can be so delicate people just don't recognize them and that those little bends and flips and twists actually mean something.

Wavy imposter/delicate waves. I like the latter. I'm such a wavy evangelist.
http://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/

Wavy imposter/delicate waves. I like the latter. I'm such a wavy evangelist.
Originally Posted by IAgirl
preach on, sister!
Stopped fighting the pregnancy induced waves (9 year battle) and became natural 5/11
2a/b? fine, low porosity
co wash- say yes to carrots, strawberries and cream Vo5
low poo- Lor'eal ever pure
leave in- burt bees very volumizing watered down
gel- beautiful curls wavy-curly, LA looks sport
scrunch and pump works for me
Pedaheh, your hair is so pretty! My hair is a bit wavier than yours when I don't apply product, but is not too far off! It's no wonder that I had no idea that I was a wavy until about a year ago! I've always been so frustrated with my hair.

Rock on, fellow wavies!!
Mod-CG since December 2010.
Hair type: NC: 2A; FIA: 2cFii; Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity
Cleansing: CJ Cleansing Conditioner, Trader Joe's Tea Tree, or Deva No Poo
Daily conditioner: Deva One C or CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Hair Cond or GPB
Styling products: Deva B'Leave In + Deva Curl Cream + AnGel; or
SS CEJ + BRHG; or AG: Recoil + BRHG; or KCKT + KCCC + BRHG
Treatments: SS protein treatment or CJ Curl Fix or Nexxus Emergencee + CJ Curl Rehab

. I think soooo many wavies never discover their waves because waves can be so delicate people just don't recognize them and that those little bends and flips and twists actually mean something.

Wavy imposter/delicate waves. I like the latter. I'm such a wavy evangelist.
Originally Posted by IAgirl
I think there are a lot of wavies like me out there. You would have to know to look for waves in my hair to find them. Most people don't know that they could look for waves (I sure didn't). I usually use the term weak wave pattern, but the imposter term seems to resinate with many people. There are a lot of people who's waves need coaxing or who have a loose wave pattern who look at all the 4's and 3's and the many avi's of the wavies with awesome hair and wonder if they are in the right place. If your hair has bends in it, you are in the right place.
Yeah, I'm totally incapable of just looking natural in a picture. My choices are uncomfortable looking or pretend model. I usually go with the latter.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Translation...
Killer look = sexy!

My sister insisted she didn't have waves (even though her hair used to make little spirals in humidity in front of her ears) until I showed her the magic that is FSG. Need an "Extreme Makeover, Wavy Edition" where we go around on a big bus, helping people discover and learn to care for their waves (with cheap products, of course). Well, then we'd have to market our own products, wouldn't we.
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http://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm totally incapable of just looking natural in a picture. My choices are uncomfortable looking or pretend model[/QUOTE]

I love this...but I cant quite pull of the model look..too many sleepless nights with my rats, uh I mean adorable kids
I had really thick curly hair as a child, then because diabetic, dry brittle hair, it never quite recovered, seemed to want to be straight, so I went with it.
but it never was straight, just puffy not straight not wavy...ugh then I found NC.com and devacurl and my happiness begun!
2c/3a
recovering from a chemically straightened nightmare!!
Going back to my roots (literally!) CG since Aug 2011
Fine, Thin, damaged, very porous, some elasticity.
Cleanse:no poo
Condish: one condition
Style: Angel, B'leave in
DT:Heaven in Hair!
Spritz and Condish!!
MY NEW HG: FSG and bent root clips with HESMEU hairspray flexible hold

My sister insisted she didn't have waves (even though her hair used to make little spirals in humidity in front of her ears) until I showed her the magic that is FSG. Need an "Extreme Makeover, Wavy Edition" where we go around on a big bus, helping people discover and learn to care for their waves (with cheap products, of course). Well, then we'd have to market our own products, wouldn't we.
Originally Posted by IAgirl
My daughters hair does the spiral thing in front of her ears and all along her hair line, but I can't seem to get anything else out of her hair. I have tried scrunching it with gel, will FSG yield different results?

I have to say that I never believed that my hair could get this wavy/whirly, so now I will go with "delicate wave pattern" and pray that it stays this way always. I used to be a 1b, and now, 2 a/b so happy!
Stopped fighting the pregnancy induced waves (9 year battle) and became natural 5/11
2a/b? fine, low porosity
co wash- say yes to carrots, strawberries and cream Vo5
low poo- Lor'eal ever pure
leave in- burt bees very volumizing watered down
gel- beautiful curls wavy-curly, LA looks sport
scrunch and pump works for me
Pedaheh, your hair is so pretty! My hair is a bit wavier than yours when I don't apply product, but is not too far off! It's no wonder that I had no idea that I was a wavy until about a year ago! I've always been so frustrated with my hair.

Rock on, fellow wavies!!
Originally Posted by LeanneM
We posted at the same time before and I missed your post. Thanks for the complement. I look at my friends/family/neighbors and wonder how many of them have wavy hair and have no idea.
*warning!!! semi obscure geeky analogy ahead*
It is like there is a world full of wavy sleeper agents (much like cylons). One day they will start hearing Watchtower being played in their heads by exotic instruments and feel compelled to stop combing and start scrunching their hair to reveal their waves. I started hearing the music a few years ago.
Yup. I'm a dork.
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http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
We posted at the same time before and I missed your post. Thanks for the complement. I look at my friends/family/neighbors and wonder how many of them have wavy hair and have no idea.
*warning!!! semi obscure geeky analogy ahead*
It is like there is a world full of wavy sleeper agents (much like cylons). One day they will start hearing Watchtower being played in their heads by exotic instruments and feel compelled to stop combing and start scrunching their hair to reveal their waves. I started hearing the music a few years ago.
Yup. I'm a dork.
Originally Posted by pedaheh
LOL! I'm a fellow dork, and LOVE your analogy!!!
Mod-CG since December 2010.
Hair type: NC: 2A; FIA: 2cFii; Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity
Cleansing: CJ Cleansing Conditioner, Trader Joe's Tea Tree, or Deva No Poo
Daily conditioner: Deva One C or CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Hair Cond or GPB
Styling products: Deva B'Leave In + Deva Curl Cream + AnGel; or
SS CEJ + BRHG; or AG: Recoil + BRHG; or KCKT + KCCC + BRHG
Treatments: SS protein treatment or CJ Curl Fix or Nexxus Emergencee + CJ Curl Rehab

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