Spin off thread: The wavy imposter, it is not just you.

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Oh hey... found a product-free air-dry photo from last summer... That's me in the back. Wavy imposter...
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Oh hey... found a product-free air-dry photo from last summer... That's me in the back. Wavy imposter...
Originally Posted by jakrussel3
Well, the evidence is clear. You're not a wavy/curly imposter, you're a straight imposter

You definitely don't have straight hair, even when it's air dried, no product, and (I'm guessing) before you knew what you know now about curly hair

So, we feel like wavy imposters, but we're really straight imposters

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I'm glad this topic is brought to life again...

I'm an imposter too, discovered I was really a wavy person about 6 months ago. Before that, I was also a straight hair with problems

My whole family has stick straight hair, and mine used to be straight, but when I was in my early 20s, the underlayers started to curl/wave. It got worse, to the point where my hair was wavy, except for the top layer, which is still straight.
I'm seen as 'the one with the bad hair' because in their eyes, I should just keep it in a short bob and straighten it after blowdrying every day, that would "solve my problem".

I've tried the CG method, but I would need a lot of gel and that makes my hair hard, the top layer will still be straight, and even if it looks okay on day 1, the next day my head will be one big frizz. So I'm kind of searching and feeling like an imposter in wavy/curly topics, and feeling like the odd one out in my family

As I'm trying to grow it out, I hope to get some wave into that top layer, and start feeling like a wavy person, but right now, I'm sort of lost...
I'm from Belgium, and all the creams and stuff for curly hair is nowhere to be found here, only mousses which dry out my already dry hair, and hard gels.

So I'll be following this topic to see if I can find "Hairmates"
Well, the evidence is clear. You're not a wavy/curly imposter, you're a straight imposter

You definitely don't have straight hair, even when it's air dried, no product, and (I'm guessing) before you knew what you know now about curly hair

So, we feel like wavy imposters, but we're really straight imposters
Originally Posted by Touch.of.ink
My hair started getting wavier once I stopped using sulfate shampoos. It was pretty much stick straight when I was using those except for this weird little curl at my hairline. Then when I was sulfate free for awhile, my hair turned out like the photo above. Wavy, but not very defined. Just enough to look messy in my eyes. Definitely couldn't straighten it anymore though because it wouldn't stay straight.

So now I'm trying to do CG and encourage more wave in my hair. It's so much work though!! I miss wash n go. A lot!
Itsonlyme, That's how my hair was too. It was very straight when I was a kid and through my teens,then in my late 20s the underside started wavy. S waves that were glued to the back of my head and didn't really show. So I kept on blow drying straight. Then my hairline started curling. Then I went sulfate free and the top layer started to get bumpy too, but not like the underlayer. I had a severe allergic reaction to the wheat protein in my sulfate free cleansing conditioner, which led to an online search for something new, which lead me to devacurl.com, which led me here. I never thought I'd get any kind of curl out of my top layer, but it's actually getting there after 2 years of sulfate free and 4 months of CG methods. I am having a hair analysis done and hope to get better product ideas once I receive my results.

What's funny is my mom always had very large bouncy cherub curls that she never knew what to do with. Then about a year before she died, she met a woman with curly hair that she loved. Woman shared product and techniques and for the first time in 59 year, my mom loved her hair. Really loved and embraced it. So I know where the curl comes from, I just don't get how mom had SO MUCH and I end up as a wavy imposter (or straight imposter depending on viewpoint, lol). And by the time I discovered my wave, mom had passed on and couldn't help me out.
Just a quick example of what a difference product and technique made with my mom's hair. Photo of her with the move is before, and the other is after. My before and afters are pretty fun too and show that where there's a bump, there's a wave waiting to be styled. So don't go giving up on your hair just yet!
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I had straight hair until last April...
Oh! Haha, guess it's my curli-verssary haha
I just thought my hair was really coarse and frizzy. I had a bob haircut that was supposed to curve under my ears. For a while, it did that, but then the ends started going in all different directions no matter how much I brushed it. My stylist gave me a curly cut, but all I used was shampoo, so I thought my hair was curling well but realize now it was just frizzy and barely wavy, haha.

Now I shampoo every 2-3 days with added coconut oil, rinse-out condition with a protein conditioner, leave-in condition, and style with a curling custard. I shower at night and put my hair over my pillow the wake up and SOTC. I have curls now!! Yay!
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I'm glad this topic is brought to life again...

I'm an imposter too, discovered I was really a wavy person about 6 months ago. Before that, I was also a straight hair with problems

My whole family has stick straight hair, and mine used to be straight, but when I was in my early 20s, the underlayers started to curl/wave. It got worse, to the point where my hair was wavy, except for the top layer, which is still straight.
I'm seen as 'the one with the bad hair' because in their eyes, I should just keep it in a short bob and straighten it after blowdrying every day, that would "solve my problem".

I've tried the CG method, but I would need a lot of gel and that makes my hair hard, the top layer will still be straight, and even if it looks okay on day 1, the next day my head will be one big frizz. So I'm kind of searching and feeling like an imposter in wavy/curly topics, and feeling like the odd one out in my family

As I'm trying to grow it out, I hope to get some wave into that top layer, and start feeling like a wavy person, but right now, I'm sort of lost...
I'm from Belgium, and all the creams and stuff for curly hair is nowhere to be found here, only mousses which dry out my already dry hair, and hard gels.

So I'll be following this topic to see if I can find "Hairmates"
Originally Posted by itsonlyme
Do you scrunch out the crunch (SOTC)? I ask because this is a step a lot of people seem to miss. Once your hair is completely dry, squeeze your hair repeatedly until your hair isn't hard. Many people find it helps to lightly coat their hands first with curl cream or oils or butters. I use a very light coat of conditioner.
Hard hold gels are your friend, because they will hold the curl. Also diffuse a bit until the gel is set. This helps lock in the curl. Look for gels that feel sticky or glue like, as opposed to slippery.
You also may want to look into homemade flax seed (linseed) gel. This won't have enough hold on its own, but helps sort of coat the hair and make it less frizzy and act nice (can't really explain it, but I like what it does). Gels with aloe in the ingredients also do good things for wavy/curly hair. HTH.
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Thanks for the tips Pedaheh! I've never scrunched out the crunch, mainly because I was scared to scrunch out the waves as well.
I need to get my mind set to fully jump into the CG thing again... Plopping is something that seems to work for me, and I have done co-washing for over a month with great results for my hair but also a lot of shedding...

I need to find a way to accept the fact that I'm the only one in the family with wavy hair, and embrace that, instead of putting my hair up to avoid comments.
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I wonder how I missed this thread all this time? I feel like a wavy imposter ALL the time. If you were to ask all of my co-workers if I have wavy hair, you'd get a resounding no. I work out in a factory, so I put my hair up in a ponytail every day, and to make it look as neat as possible, I comb it first. I'm kind of a weekend wavy.

I've known that I had wavy hair for years. A couple hair stylists told me. My well-intentioned mom even bought me a diffuser when I was 12.

I felt like my hair always looked shaggy though. A lot like this. Haha. http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images23...sFullCoat1.jpg
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I'm kind of a weekend wavy.
Originally Posted by HairObsessed
Weekend Wavy!!! Love it.
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I wonder how I missed this thread all this time? I feel like a wavy imposter ALL the time. If you were to ask all of my co-workers if I have wavy hair, you'd get a resounding no. I work out in a factory, so I put my hair up in a ponytail every day, and to make it look as neat as possible, I comb it first. I'm kind of a weekend wavy.
Originally Posted by HairObsessed
haha I am kind of a weekend wavy as well! I work with kids w/ autism so my hair is up in a ponytail/bun most of the time. During the week I try to work out before school so I'm usually hopping in the shower about 7:45 and have to be at school by 8:15. I will squeeze as much water out of my hair as possible and then run a comb through it and call it good!
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rinse out: CJ Beauticurls, CJ A&OO, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: Mop C, KCCC, SCE FSG
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

Thanks for the tips Pedaheh! I've never scrunched out the crunch, mainly because I was scared to scrunch out the waves as well.
I need to get my mind set to fully jump into the CG thing again... Plopping is something that seems to work for me, and I have done co-washing for over a month with great results for my hair but also a lot of shedding...

I need to find a way to accept the fact that I'm the only one in the family with wavy hair, and embrace that, instead of putting my hair up to avoid comments.
Originally Posted by itsonlyme
Don't worry, as long as you wait until your hair is completely dry, your waves won't go anywhere. I find my waves actually end up more clumpy and much prettier once I SOTC. And the shedding may be because you aren't brushing like you did when you were hiding your waves, so it just seems like it's more shedding. I know that's the case with me. Good luck.
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^^ day 1 of going CG; avatar = 6 months later
I wonder how I missed this thread all this time? I feel like a wavy imposter ALL the time. If you were to ask all of my co-workers if I have wavy hair, you'd get a resounding no. I work out in a factory, so I put my hair up in a ponytail every day, and to make it look as neat as possible, I comb it first. I'm kind of a weekend wavy.

I've known that I had wavy hair for years. A couple hair stylists told me. My well-intentioned mom even bought me a diffuser when I was 12.

I felt like my hair always looked shaggy though. A lot like this. Haha. http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images23...sFullCoat1.jpg
Originally Posted by HairObsessed
Disclaimer: kind of long, but I tried to divide it up for easier reading.

COMPLETELY agree with you. I work three days a week (MWF) where I have to wear my hair at least half up if not all the way up and because I really don't like washing my hair that often (#1 because I know my hair is healthier the less I wash it and #2 because it takes a good bit of effort and I don't have the energy or time when I'm taking classes full time and working almost 20 hours per week), it's much easier to just wear it back during the week. I almost always do my hair on the weekends since I usually see my friends out, but I feel like most people I see during the week have no clue I'm wavy unless I happen to talk with them about it.

Also had to quote you because that picture of the shaggy dog is probably the closest thing to how my hair looks without product that I'll ever find. Before going CG, I never would have thought I had as much of a wave pattern as I actually do. I can blow dry my hair and have it be pretty straight IF it's not too humid. With any significant humidity or if I sweat too much because of heat (which of course is more common since I moved to GA), my previously straight hair turns exactly into those shaggy bends.

It is so nice to know that I am not alone in being confused about my hair and not understanding for the longest time that I was a wavy. I always liked waves, but using all the "traditional" methods (the ones you see in most magazines - like only using mousse or using a curling iron), I never really got any results, and since I get frustrated relatively easily, my attempt to get waves would only last a few washes before putting it to the side.

I still do sometimes feel like a wavy imposter, especially when it's hot out and no matter whether I've gone straight or wavy, my hair still seems to fall flat; I'm just glad I have the helpful people on here to vent/talk to and get advice from (especially when it's so simple, you feel like you should have thought of it yourself - like applying oil to seal right after your leave in instead of at the very end, thanks IAgirl )
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^^ day 1 of going CG; avatar = 6 months later
I wonder how I missed this thread all this time? I feel like a wavy imposter ALL the time. If you were to ask all of my co-workers if I have wavy hair, you'd get a resounding no. I work out in a factory, so I put my hair up in a ponytail every day, and to make it look as neat as possible, I comb it first. I'm kind of a weekend wavy.
Originally Posted by HairObsessed
haha I am kind of a weekend wavy as well! I work with kids w/ autism so my hair is up in a ponytail/bun most of the time. During the week I try to work out before school so I'm usually hopping in the shower about 7:45 and have to be at school by 8:15. I will squeeze as much water out of my hair as possible and then run a comb through it and call it good!
Originally Posted by asianrunner
That's exactly what I do on weekdays. Shower, comb, let my hair dry while I drive to work, and put it up in a ponytail when I get there. Nice to know there's someone else out there who's as low maintenance on weekdays as me!

Kimmidawn: I used to have short layers too, so it REALLY emphasized the shaggy-ness of my hair. Weird bendy ends sticking out in every direction from the ends up to my ears... Woof!
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Last edited by HairObsessed; 04-09-2012 at 04:56 PM.
Hey all,

I want to thank all of you for the usefull tips I got here! Today is the first day I'm at work with my full-on waves, and I got plenty of compliments already!
I co-washed this morning, put some of my conditioner as leave in while it was still dripping wet. Scrunched out most of the water and put a lot of gel in there, but reaally a lot (much more than I used to put in). Plopped for about half an hour, and I was very careful not to touch my hair anymore. Guess what? Almost no frizz (almost, but I can only be happy with that)!
I'm not hoping for good 2nd day hair tomorrow, but I'm happy as can be today!!
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So, I've been frequenting this site for a while now, reading through everything and quietly thinking I am not wavy enough to play too

But now that I've found this thread, I feel like maybe I should give it a shot! I often do the "wave denial" routine of blowing it out, then straightening it and if I just wash and comb I get "poofy mess." I also dread humid days because my bangs immediately become "hair horns." lol

I do have some grays and I am in denial, so I would still like to color my hair, is that "allowed"?

Anyhow, here's my "before" pic from a few months ago with my "What? This is straight, right?" hair.

Thank you to everyone in this forum for showing me I'm not the only 'imposter,' and hopefully I'll have more of a wave in the coming months.

1c-2b, fine, thick. My biggest hang-up will be learning to not touch my hair. I love the way it FEELS naturally (soft and silky) but it looks crazy LOL
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Anyhow, here's my "before" pic from a few months ago with my "What? This is straight, right?" hair.
Originally Posted by Crouton42
I see waves! I believe there are threads on coloring your hair, so it must be allowed? You might just have to do a protein treatment and deep conditioning treatment...

I had no idea this thread existed! Mine definitely waves without product, it just is messy and frizzy. So, I've always blown it dry. If I did it quickly enough without sweating, it wouldn't frizz. In college I learned the benefits of using a hair straightener after blowing it dry to get rid of the frizzies. But no matter how much hair spray I used, it would be big and frizzy by the end of the day. I don't know why I went through all that trouble...
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Dying your hair is allowed in CG.
1) The method was devised by a hair stylist. She isn't about to tell people to stop dying their hair. There is too much money in it.
2) If she did try to tell people to stop dying their hair, we wouldn't listen anyway.

Ideally, you would probably get the best waves with hair that has not been dyed. I'm not giving up dye. Try to use the gentlest dye you can (demi and semi permanent are better). If you need protein treatments to repair the damage, do them. It is good to do a PT a few days before dying your hair. This post on my blog has info on how to do coconut oil pre-dye treatments to reduce damage. Scroll down a little past half way.
Pedaheh's Hair Blog: Coconut Oil
You can also dye your hair with henna, which does not damage hair. Henna may loosen your waves. Henna is also PERMANENT. You cannot bleach the henna color out, you must grow it out. If you are interested in henna, check hennaforhair.com.

And, I see waves in that picture, not straight hair.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Thanks for your support you two!

I have an appointment to do a coloring tomorrow, but then I'm going to use the salon finder in here for the next time. That way I have some idea of what my hair does before I get another cut or something. I usually put red in my hair, and it fades REALLY fast - just the nature of red, and I was using some high-end color care products and was actually surprised to see SLS and cones in them. Oh well LOL.

I'm waiting for my hair to 'air-dry' now on day 1 of being a CG, and I'm pretty excited. I hope my 'transition period' isn't too long or awful but I'm prepared with a go-to updo, thanks to Pedaheh's lovely hair blog! Thank you so much for that link!

Anyhow, if anyone is horribly bored or something, I'm starting a "Travel Log" LOL: Wavy in the Works

Thanks again!

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