Spin off thread: The wavy imposter, it is not just you.

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*Blushes* Thanks. I'm glad you like the blog.

I've heard that if you have dyed red hair, you want to avoid humectants (like glycerin). I've heard they can make red dye fade faster.
ETA: Just checked out your blog post. I love any post that begins Captains Log. HETT mousse (and gel) is CG. You've got some great links there too.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers

Last edited by pedaheh; 05-19-2012 at 05:36 PM.
No, thank YOU lol. It's been tons of help, I'm even planning to make the homemade flax gel and do a coconut oil strand test!

That's good to know about the red-hair, because I was going to try some out, but now I'll be sure to look out for accelerated fading - maybe the switch to CG safe products will counter-balance it? I'll have to experiment (note: get lab coat).

Thanks for taking the time to check out my blog, I JUST added my "Day 1 After Pics" so I hope you caught them

Oh and BTW, I <3 Swedish Chef LOL
2a-2c (depending on the day)
Medium-fine texture, High density, Normal porosity, Normal elasticity, APL.





What happens to you here is forever
I'm a new wavy imposter, I've spent years and years fighting with my outrageously frizzy straight hair that bends just enough to be annoying, but not enough to look good. I'm only a few days into trying curly/wavy-friendly hair care to try to coax it into submission, I'm happy to see there are others like me out there!
Ditto. I always thought my poofy hair that has a slight bend was all because I don't brush it enough, which led me to an overbrushed, frizzy, mess! I always wondered why I could never get hair like my straight haired family and I never used conditioner because I always thought it weighed my hair down.. But now that im CG, all I ever do is CO wash and I love it. So far I have 2a/b..ish hair that takes a lot of work with wurls on a good day. I tried different techniques and product but I always felt kind of guilty because I knew my hair wouldn't be like that without it, like braiding straight hair to make crimped waves.. Does anyone have any tips of bringing out my waves and wurls? I know I have wave and maybe even curl potential, but it takes a lot of work. CG has been helping me a lot and I noticed that my hair loves moisture. So I'm working on that. I used to be jealous of people who could get curly hair without product, but get upset when they try to cover it up with straighteners and relaxers when I have to work so hard to barely even get it like that. Anyways, thanks for reading my rant. Any tips?
I've been on somewhat friendly terms with my wavy hair for a while now, but just recently decided to commit to it full time. One thing I like to do is after I get out of the shower is use a blow dryer on it just to get some body (I prefer some fluff or body over clumps, mostly because I have fine hair and not a whole lot of it) and then divide my hair in 3 sections - one bottom, two on top either side - and pin them into small chignon bun while my hair continues to dry. I might take it down once or twice and scrunch, but then it goes back up. I leave it in like this for maybe 20-30 minutes while I do makeup or whatever, and then let it air dry the rest of the way. This seems to "encourage" the wave a bit.
We posted at the same time before and I missed your post. Thanks for the complement. I look at my friends/family/neighbors and wonder how many of them have wavy hair and have no idea.
*warning!!! semi obscure geeky analogy ahead*
It is like there is a world full of wavy sleeper agents (much like cylons). One day they will start hearing Watchtower being played in their heads by exotic instruments and feel compelled to stop combing and start scrunching their hair to reveal their waves. I started hearing the music a few years ago.
Yup. I'm a dork.
Originally Posted by pedaheh
LOL! I'm a fellow dork, and LOVE your analogy!!!
Originally Posted by LeanneM
Love it!!!
Originally Posted by IAgirl
YESSSSS!!!
2a/b, high porosity, fine strands, average density, just about shoulder blade length

My hair loves moisture!

currently mod-cg , using low-poo and not totally cone-free yet. I'll get there though!
ok, so I'm wondering if there are any long haired wavies out there that can empathize with this - just started going mod-cg about a week ago and definitely seeing more bends in my hair, but then a lot of it seems to be ... Idk ... flat. Although that isn't quite the right word, but many clumps kind of look like a rope, with pieces twisted around each other closely, sort of spiraling, but long and droopy, not bouncy and loopy. Am I making any sense?? I think if those clumps would spread out more, my hair would look fuller. Ideas? Suggestions?

ETA: I am not about to cut my hair any shorter, I had a pixie cut about 5 years ago and I am soooooo happy it has grown as long as it has. So that's not an option lol. But any other suggestions - styling, products (cheap ones preferably), techniques, etc I would be so grateful for!
2a/b, high porosity, fine strands, average density, just about shoulder blade length

My hair loves moisture!

currently mod-cg , using low-poo and not totally cone-free yet. I'll get there though!
My hair is naturally what I consider to be "wurly" It does have quite a bit of 3a in it but it's not uniformly curly, there's also a lot of 2c and 2b. So I often feel like a curly imposter, lol. But when I had bleached damaged hair I was definitely a wavy imposter. It lost so much of it's curl that I had to work just for 2a/b. Not because the curl pattern wasn't there, but because the bleach had so significantly weakened my hair that it just couldn't really form a curl on its own. My theory for "wavy imposters" is that the curl pattern is definitely there, but maybe the hair just isn't strong enough to use it to it's full potential.
2a/b
medium/thick
high porosity (from coloring)

Shampoo: Mop Top Gentle Shampoo
Co-wash: Chistophe Robin Lemon Cleansing Cream
RO: CJ strengthening, Kenra moisturizing
LI: Jessicurl Aloeba
DT: CJ rehab, Christophe Robin Prickly Pear Mask
PT: SS protein treatment, Ouidad 12 minute
Stylers: Jessicurl RR, SS Firm Hold Gel
Oils: caudalie, sweet almond
Seamelody14 I wish you were right! I'd give anything for curls!
I agree- It takes hard work to get my hair to wave/curl. when my hair is sopping wet-it barley has a wave to it. If I let it air dry with no product in it-its big- frizzy and pretty straight. I REALLY have to encourage my wave to even somewhat curl. Going CG has REALLY helped my hair though- 2 months now-YAY I also use many products to help encourage my wave. I actually get compliments on my hair now But in NO way can I wash and go
My hair is naturally what I consider to be "wurly" It does have quite a bit of 3a in it but it's not uniformly curly, there's also a lot of 2c and 2b. So I often feel like a curly imposter, lol. But when I had bleached damaged hair I was definitely a wavy imposter. It lost so much of it's curl that I had to work just for 2a/b. Not because the curl pattern wasn't there, but because the bleach had so significantly weakened my hair that it just couldn't really form a curl on its own. My theory for "wavy imposters" is that the curl pattern is definitely there, but maybe the hair just isn't strong enough to use it to it's full potential.
Originally Posted by seamelody14
I think this is definitely the case with mine... the more I do right by it, the more I am seeing spirals here and there!
2a/b, high porosity, fine strands, average density, just about shoulder blade length

My hair loves moisture!

currently mod-cg , using low-poo and not totally cone-free yet. I'll get there though!
My hair dries in a naturally 2c form (waves and curly bottom) when longer, and barely there waves when shorter. I can scrunch it to 'fake wavy' and diffuse it to 'fake curly' then! =P

I don't often use gel per se, but I do use other products with less hold, and it makes a huge difference.
ok, so I'm wondering if there are any long haired wavies out there that can empathize with this - just started going mod-cg about a week ago and definitely seeing more bends in my hair, but then a lot of it seems to be ... Idk ... flat.
Originally Posted by anonymous_125408
You might want to look up sock buns on Youtube. There's a bunch of tutorials and I have friends that use them religiously. My hair is not quite long enough yet, but I plan to use them when it gets there.
Averages out at 2b, ranges from 1c to 3a, very fine
Mane 'n Tail co-wash + leave-in
Clarifying shampoo every few weeks
Lavender Allergy
I know I posted on this years ago, but it I very much can relate to feeling as a curly imposter, even wavy imposter sometimes! Yesterday I went in to get a trim and the lady mistakenly took my hair for curly hair, because with my techniques my hair looks rather curly. When I left my hair was a mess! Halfway straight with some kinks here and there lol. My hair has a very weak wave to it! It's not a big wave, it's small close waves, that can actually turn into spirals or curls if I use the right technique. She was combing my hair a lot and by the time she put the gel in my hair it was practically dry on the bottom (my hair is also high porosity). If combed and left to dry I get frizz, some poof, and a few kinks. It's not very pretty, lol. She had probably only styled naturally curly hair with a strong, hard to straighten (or easily encouraged wave/curl) curly hair, not my baby fine, highly porous, easy to straighten, need to be encouraged waves. Needless to say, I will likely request for my hair to just be blown straight from now on as its much easier for a stylist to do! I don't do it cuz I air dry and don't want damage.

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Low poo: Deva Low-Poo, Jessicurl GLS, Moroccanoil Volumizing Shampoo, Aveda Be Curly
Condish: Cure Care, Redken Body Full, Deva One C, and Jessicurl Aloeba
LI: Aveda Be Curly Style Prep <3
Products: Deva FFVF & Jessicurl Spiralicious (LOVE), TRESemme Curl Boosting Mousse
Hairspray: Aussie Sprunch, TRESemme Curl
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My hair loves protein, plopping, and diffusing! Trying to find a way to style and air dry.
Hi! I just started trying to coax out my waves. I *think* I am 2 a. I actually thought I was straight with body. Normally I have kept my hair short but it's a guessing game what will happen. No gel seems strong enough to keep it from flattening out and flipping inked ways at the ends. Before that I'd perm my hair. Because, you know, straight. So last week l, my hair having now grown to shoulders I noticed all this wave when it's wet. The kind I try to get with a curling iron and it doesn't look right. So I have been reading about CG and got some OC and Angel also set me up and a diffuser. This is what I get (with plopping. Plopping seems to be important. ) I am getting a cut tonight hoping to help get more wave less bush. I felt like this thread says, an imposter especially after seeing some complaints. Mind you this can drag out to scraggly pretty easily so maybe I still am an imposter. But I'm going to try it anyway. It seems like most people develop more wave after a while. So you know why not try? It's just hair. anyhow I'm like a 1c right? (Because it semi straightens in a flash. Oh and this is day 5 of scrunch and plop and diffuse. (Air dry seems to drag it to scraggly wave too).
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Oh and here is the back. I forgot to say my hair is colored and highlighted and probably medium with medium porosity but grey is resistant ish. Help identify me!
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Hi! I just started trying to coax out my waves. I *think* I am 2 a. I actually thought I was straight with body. Normally I have kept my hair short but it's a guessing game what will happen. No gel seems strong enough to keep it from flattening out and flipping inked ways at the ends. Before that I'd perm my hair. Because, you know, straight. So last week l, my hair having now grown to shoulders I noticed all this wave when it's wet. The kind I try to get with a curling iron and it doesn't look right. So I have been reading about CG and got some OC and Angel also set me up and a diffuser. This is what I get (with plopping. Plopping seems to be important. ) I am getting a cut tonight hoping to help get more wave less bush. I felt like this thread says, an imposter especially after seeing some complaints. Mind you this can drag out to scraggly pretty easily so maybe I still am an imposter. But I'm going to try it anyway. It seems like most people develop more wave after a while. So you know why not try? It's just hair. anyhow I'm like a 1c right? (Because it semi straightens in a flash. Oh and this is day 5 of scrunch and plop and diffuse. (Air dry seems to drag it to scraggly wave too).
Originally Posted by chupie
The strongest gel out there is Biosilk Rock Hard Gel. Some people can mix a few pea sized drops into their regular gel. I use this in regular gel amounts. Also, you may not be using enough gel. My hair is thin and shoulder length and I use about 1 1/2 T total. Some people with thick, longer hair use palm fulls of gel.

I'd call you 2a, but I'm terrible at curl typing. My hair straightens very easily and I'm 2b. Some hair just does that. Be sure to look into protein. Your hair may need it since you color and highlight (I have post on protein on my blog, link below).
Make sure you try adding gel to very wet hair too. That doesn't work for everyone, but is worth a try. It helps me get bigger clumps. Wavies, as a rule, need to diffuse some for volume. Air drying usually = flat roots.

You may want to check out my blog. I tried to put the information a person new to wavy hair would need in order in one place.
Pedaheh's Hair Blog: How do I get started?
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Hi! I just started trying to coax out my waves. I *think* I am 2 a. I actually thought I was straight with body. Normally I have kept my hair short but it's a guessing game what will happen. No gel seems strong enough to keep it from flattening out and flipping inked ways at the ends. Before that I'd perm my hair. Because, you know, straight. So last week l, my hair having now grown to shoulders I noticed all this wave when it's wet. The kind I try to get with a curling iron and it doesn't look right. So I have been reading about CG and got some OC and Angel also set me up and a diffuser. This is what I get (with plopping. Plopping seems to be important. ) I am getting a cut tonight hoping to help get more wave less bush. I felt like this thread says, an imposter especially after seeing some complaints. Mind you this can drag out to scraggly pretty easily so maybe I still am an imposter. But I'm going to try it anyway. It seems like most people develop more wave after a while. So you know why not try? It's just hair. anyhow I'm like a 1c right? (Because it semi straightens in a flash. Oh and this is day 5 of scrunch and plop and diffuse. (Air dry seems to drag it to scraggly wave too).
Originally Posted by chupie
The strongest gel out there is Biosilk Rock Hard Gel. Some people can mix a few pea sized drops into their regular gel. I use this in regular gel amounts. Also, you may not be using enough gel. My hair is thin and shoulder length and I use about 1 1/2 T total. Some people with thick, longer hair use palm fulls of gel.

I'd call you 2a, but I'm terrible at curl typing. My hair straightens very easily and I'm 2b. Some hair just does that. Be sure to look into protein. Your hair may need it since you color and highlight (I have post on protein on my blog, link below).
Make sure you try adding gel to very wet hair too. That doesn't work for everyone, but is worth a try. It helps me get bigger clumps. Wavies, as a rule, need to diffuse some for volume. Air drying usually = flat roots.

You may want to check out my blog. I tried to put the information a person new to wavy hair would need in order in one place.
Pedaheh's Hair Blog: How do I get started?
Originally Posted by pedaheh
Thanks for answering! Yesterday, I took back some product to Ulta I didn't care for and the (VERY) wavy haired (I would have called it curly) gal who worked there suggested ArcAngel (since you can take it back, I figured OK why not try it). She asked if I'd tried Ouidad. She didn't like the smell, but said I might like it. She gave me a "sample". Holy cow it was an entire unopened bottle of the Humidity and Heat gel. I know, some cones, but....FREE. Anyhow I used it this morning in the shower and scrunched and diffused (seriously if I do not diffuse my hair WILL NOT DRY I swear! Not with product on it anyway.)

It was my favorite hair day so far. See first attachment.



I have wondered about a protein treatment. I bought some Knox. I guess I need to deep condition after though and I haven't figured out what to get for that yet. (Also, reading it looks like sometimes that's a disaster. So, I worry. I'm a worrier ) My stylist says my hair is "pretty healthy". But if I run my fingers up it, it does feel "rough". So maybe a PT is a good idea. I could always just use the half packet weak treatment first.

I'm also still using a little no sulfate Enjoy hydrating shampoo but there are a few cones in it. I bought some Deva No Poo last night to see how that is. I looked at L'Oreal, but just hate the smell of it I have to say, I would like to spend less, but my experience has always been that anything I bought at Walgreen's just kind of made my hair suck. Soooo I keep just trying different Deva stuff because I get so overwhelmed looking at aaaaaalll the products out there at Ulta. I was looking at the Curl junkie stuff last night online though and that is CJCCL sure is interesting and the CIAB too.

Anyhow, it's interesting you mention a PT. I've wondered if I should do that. (I did a ACV rinse last week and WHOA. My hair was so slick I couldn't do anything with it. But it was sure shiny.)

Anyhow, thanks for answering. I really appreciate it.
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Fine hair likes protein no matter what the porosity. Damaged or porous hair needs protein, but use caution if it is coarse. When you try a PT for the first time, try it on a small curl/section of hair. That way if your hair hates it, you didn't mess up your whole heat.
Organix, Renpure, and the Shea Moisture low poos are popular. CVS's policy lets you return opened products. Sally Beauty lets you return too.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
I think my hair is medium. I simply cant figure out the porosity or elasticity. Ive done the glass test and part of some strands sink a little. As for stretxh it stretches and then eventually breaks but i cant tell if it is "too much". What a great idea to try just a section! Never would have thought of it. That should help a lot.

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