Type 2A? Pic included

Hi,

I am sooo excited to find this forum. I have searched for wavy haired forums before but have never found any because I never considered wavy hair as curly hair. I have always hated my hair I always thought that it was just wavy enough to look messy but not enough to look styled. I hated it so much that I have even tried extensions but decided they are not for me. So I would like to figure out how to take care of my own hair. I think I am a 2A with a little bit of B. My hair is never frizzy though like I have seen several people mention. It is always the opposite and really oily. I would love to have the proper cut for my hair and would love to see if I could get it curlier and fuller. I have enclosed a pic (notice how oily it is) of my hair. It is a little old my hair is a little longer now. Any suggestions would be greatly (and I mean greatly ) appreciated.

Thanks,
Julia

Well, I'm just starting out on this too, I've only been cg for about 3 weeks! But your hair looks a lot like mine, maybe a little more in some spots, and I'm a 2a, so 2a/b would be my guess too. Sorry I couldn't help more, but I can tell you that my 2a has seen it's "Can I call that 2b" moments since I started this!

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I looked at your pics and your hair does look similar to mine. I read about the cg thing and I am not sure about it. At first I was like what are they talking about are they speaking a new language? I mean every post was cg this or modified(?) cg or plopping that. I have read some more now and sorta know what they are talking about. From my understanding cg is a book that has a routine of conditioner washing hair and using only products with no silicones in it. I have a couple of questions. It sounds like alot of people with curly hair have frizzy hair and cg probably works for them but my hair is never frizzy it is really oily and flat I can't imagine the cg routine would work for me. Am I wrong? Are they any people on this board who have tried this and have oily flat hair? I guess I need to get the book to know more about it. I may be wrong I am just figuring these things out.

No offense to curly haired people but I wish wavy hair was recognized as a hair type instead of being lumped together with curly hair. I think it should have its own book and rules because it is totally different. I mean if you have curly at least you have a hair style or if you have straight. If you have wavy though your hair just sometimes looks unbrushed or unkempt. I wish my hair was curly.
I just wanted to say I looked at your pics again and your hair looks exactly like mine if I put a little gel in. The crown thing that you mentioned I have that exact same thing. I cant make my hair close up there. I think it may be a cowlick or something but it looks exactly like yours. I will have to take a pic and show you. I guess we are hair twins
Hey Juliap, that's kinda cool, I really never expected to find a hair twin! Yep, that's really just a cowlick. All a cowlick is is the way your hair grows. Who knew that the direction your hair grew in could cause so many little problems, and not so big ones too!

I know a number of people who post here that are NOT cg, not even modified. It works for my hair, my scalp is so dry and my ends are too, that it's fine. I'm actually just barely modified, I occasionally use cones, but am trying to completely weed them out, and I shampoo every once in a great while. I agree with the wavy thing though, the things we deal with are so different, yet so similar, to both straight and curly hair. I used to say I had enough bend in my hair to be annoying! Now I love it just how it is though. But I agree that wavy hair can look "unkempt" a lot. It's either straighten it or curl it, there's really no between with us, is there? Hope you figure things out,

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OOPS forgot to add that my hair when it's not got anything in it looks like your pic minus about the last inch or two, which is where my hair hits right now, lol.....So I guess that means as my hair gets longer (growing it out) it'll look even more like yours.

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Hi Julia,

Wavy is definitely recognized as a hair type on here . Heck, this "2" forum is just for us wavies!

Most of us with wavy hair find that we have hidden curls that come out with proper care. You look like a 2B to me because of your waves. I would like rymorg2, your hair can become wavier/curlier with the right products. Mine goes from a 2B to 3A depending on what products I use.

I'm at working getting ready to go home, so I skimmed over your post - what products are you using? Are you interested in becoming CG or modified CG? Do you air dry or diffuse (or both)? Fill us in on your routine so we can help bring out some hidden curls .
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I am confused it sounds like you are refering to the letter a or b as meaning that it is more or less wavy. What I read on this website was the a or b meant fine or medium textured hair and the number stood for wavy/curliness. You can't change if you have fine or medium hair can you?. The reason I said I had a little bit of b in my hair was because some of my hair strands are thicker but mostly I have fine hair. If I am wrong set me straight. I am new to all of this.

I am pretty easy on my hair when it comes to caring for it. I have been using sulfate free shampoo with all natural ingrediants from the health food store and sometimes I use one called paves. Then I use my absolute favorite conditioner called Loreal natures therapy mega moisture. I only wash about every three days and always let my hair air dry. I also clarify it every once in awhile. I usually just towel dry it and scrunch it a little while its air drying. Occasionally I put tresseme curl mouse on it wet and scrunch and let air dry. My hair is totally natural and unprocessed. I cut it awhile back and got rid of all of the old stuff like highlights that I use to get and decided to start over fresh. I want to grow it to bra strap length. I hardly ever use a curling on it or blow dryer either. The reason I am so easy is because I have a 14 month old and I never have time to fix my hair and also I am lazy

Sure I am interested in cg I will probably try it but I want to get the book first. Thanks for your help let me know if you have any ideas how to make my hair curlier. I think it may be possible because I looked at an old photo of myself today when I use to gel and diffuse my hair in my teens. I had curly hair in the picture and it was down to midback. For some reason even though I have tried to do the same thing to it I have never been able to get it that curly again. I wish I could remember what gel I used back then.
Some of us use Fia's hair typing system ( http://homepage.mac.com/annsofie.hen...ersonal27.html ) which makes much more sense than the one given on this site. In that system the letter always refers to the amount of straightness, wave or curl. It provides for a more exact classification as more factors are taken into consideration.
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That hairtyping thing can be so confusing!!! I still get confused ! I was hoping some more people would chime in with what type they thought you are.

It sounds like you're taking care of your hair pretty well. I've never used the mega moisture, I'll have to check that one out.

The only thing I can think of right now for you to do is to use some gel (the Herbal Essence ones are good, cheap and CG to start out on - either the Body Envy, Totally Twisted or Set Me Up) and to maybe plop.

If you haven't already done it, visit Jessicurl and she has some excellent videos on diffusing and plopping.

Oh, and I don't think your hair looks oily at all in that pic - it looks pretty healthy to me! Nice and shiny .
CG-modified since 4/05
2b/3a and 3b on occasion!
Products: The hair aisle in my own cabinets.
Best definition winner: KCCC
Best volume winner: LOOB
Welcome to the board! Let's see... first of all I think you are a 2B (Fia system). I am a deffinate 2C either way; wavy with some spirals, course, thick and dry so I'm not going to be much help with the oily issues. I can say that my hubby has oily hair and I switched him to a CG shampoo (organic and sulphate free) and it cleans his hair - even stopped his flakey scalp since he isn't stripping the oil from his skin now - but his hair is clean all day. That said, he HAS to wash every day. Most of what CG involves (correct me if I'm wrong here someone!) is treating your hair like a fine silk shirt. GENTLE, GENTLE, GENTLE! Of course everything on here might not work for you - it will take just dinking around with you hair for a while, but after about three months my hair looked SOOOOO much better - check out my picts for proof! (I've been CG for about 9 months now)

Feel free to ask questions! We're here to help each other!
HeatherDawn
2C/3A

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