PT recipe - as promised - Page 3

nikske · 02-05-2011, 04:08 AM

IAgirl, tried it with heat today. Big difference! Worked even better than just leaving it on for a while without heat, my hair feels FAH-BUH-LISH! I stood under the shower with a bag over my head, and it worked great. But dang, it is indeed really, really loud!

IAgirl · 02-05-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nikske

IAgirl, tried it with heat today. Big difference! Worked even better than just leaving it on for a while without heat, my hair feels FAH-BUH-LISH! I stood under the shower with a bag over my head, and it worked great. But dang, it is indeed really, really loud!

Sounds like a winner!
Now you just need earplugs. That would totally complete the picture

nikske · 02-05-2011, 12:04 PM

LOL

Yeah, I think I might need those, it honestly sounded as if I was caught in a hailstorm while under a tin roof.

BTW, I'm making a fashion statement with that ziploc bag and (matching) earplugs, it'll be all the rage soon!

crwritt · 02-25-2011, 03:16 PM

I've made a hair gel before with the unflavored gelatin, water, a few drops of EVO and a little lavender EO.
I kept it in the fridge for about a week, and just dipped my fingers in the jar and rubbed my palms together to liquefy it before styling my hair with it.
It held well and I didn't need any other styler.

What I'm wondering with this PT recipe is why rinse it out?
If you're blowing it dry, can't you just style with it and leave it in?

swell28 · 02-25-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nikske

I just realized I never posted here to tell you how much I love your PT recipe, IAgirl, even though in other threads I have sung the praises of your PT.

This is my recipe, tweaked to my hair, and it's been working great:

1/4 cup of water
1/4 cup of coconut milk
1 packet of gelatin
1/8 ts of ACV
a little avocado oil (did not measure)
a little conditioner

With this recipe, I don't even need to use any conditioner afterward to detangle my hair, it just doesn't get hard or straw-like. My hair is shiny and much stronger, so thank you ever so much!

I don't use heat, been afraid to use heat on my very heat sensitive hair, but I'm going to definitely give it a go next time. How do you all do this, I mean how do you keep it from dripping all over, or do you use a shower cap or something like that? Would using a cap make applying heat less effective?

I'm going to have to try it with banana, Pedaheh, your recipe looks intriguing.

This recipe sounds perfect for my hair! Do you think it will tighten my curls (which are barely even curls anymore) I read somewhere to make you hair curlier and bouncy-er you should do a PT... is that what it did for your hair??

IAgirl · 02-26-2011, 08:54 AM

A PT may help your curls, curl. If you have fine hair especially, the protein can provide support for the curls and strength. If your elasticity is low, same story, protein improves elasticity which helps curls hold their shape.

IAgirl · 03-27-2011, 11:24 PM

Hi all, I decided to mix the recipe up a bit.
I mixed the gelatin with chamomile tea instead of plain water, added a little honey and a spoonful of (thick, 2% fat) yogurt.
The results were silky, silky soft, shiny, lots of body and I like it a lot!
I need to play around with amounts, but yogurt is an excellent add-in to this PT. I don't think the milk protein are small enough to do the job. It's the sugars which are fermented by the bacteria. But the bacterial proteins may be fragmented enough to do some good...
The acids and fats are probably the "active" ingredients.

missbanjo · 04-03-2011, 09:30 PM

I decided to try this tonight. So far I'm liking the results but won't really know until tomorrow morning. I made some additions:

1/4 cup Aubrey Organics Jojoba & Aloe condish
1 Tbsp AVJ (LOTD)
2 Tbsp coconut milk
1 packet unflavored gelatin
1/3 cup boiling water
1/4 tsp vinegar

The first 3 ingredients I had mixed together thinking I was going to use it tonight. But then decided to go with IAgirl's recipe and add in the last 3. Head in plastic cap was under the shower about 20 minutes. I'll update in the am.

IAgirl · 04-03-2011, 11:51 PM

Sounds intense for protein and moisture, I hope it worked well.

missbanjo · 04-08-2011, 12:26 PM

Wow did that ever work great but it didn't last very long. I kept my capped hair under the shower 10 or so minutes. Maybe not long enough? IDK, figured for the first one maybe not too long.
I think I'm going to start using a higher protein L/I condish starting with the AOJ&A since I have that to hand and see how that fares.

pedaheh · 04-08-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by missbanjo

Wow did that ever work great but it didn't last very long. I kept my capped hair under the shower 10 or so minutes. Maybe not long enough? IDK, figured for the first one maybe not too long.
I think I'm going to start using a higher protein L/I condish starting with the AOJ&A since I have that to hand and see how that fares.

If you want a hard hit of protein, try the version with magnesium sulfate where you blow it dry with a blow dryer. That is a knock out punch of protein and should last for a while.

rj16 · 04-10-2011, 11:16 AM

Thank you so much for this recipe IAgirl! I
have a few questions about it though.
1) I am a bit picky about texture. Is it ok to put the ingredients in the blender or could that affect the protein? I can't think why it would but I wanted to ask anyway. I would dissolve the gelatine then pour that in the blender with the other ingredients. (The recipe with conditioner)
2) I did the heavy duty version with magnesium sulphate. It left my hair feeling a little dry when I was rinsing it out but I was generous with my leave in and the next day, my hair was incredible!!!! I was really impressed. Sadly, the results didn't last long, 2 or 3 days. I am guessing that means I need more protein. How often should I do the treatment? Should I use gel or condish with protein in between treatments to make them 'last' longer?

Thanks for all your help!

IAgirl · 04-10-2011, 11:35 AM

I think somewhere in this long post there is mention of blending up the PT with a blender or immersion blender to make it nicer to apply. Absolutely no negative effects from doing that.

If a PT doesn't last, it could be because you need more. Or it could be because of a lot of conditioner used to "re-soften" the hair post-PT. People talk about "protein vs. moisture" but considering the actual effects of the stuff we put on our hair to condition, I think "protein vs. softness" is more accurate. Protein can leave a dry, tangly, rough feel. I usually use only enough conditioner to help detangle or else the PT is less obvious. Protein also conditions and is a humectant. But absolutely NO slip!

Protein bonds to your hair, but it will come off. So repeating the PT is okay. I can do them often if I'm that motivated. You eventually find your "point of diminishing returns" with them.

I use conditioner with protein and it seems I can go longer between PTs that way.

rj16 · 04-10-2011, 11:39 AM

Awesome! Thanks!

solidgold · 04-13-2011, 10:56 AM

I tried the PT with
1/2 packet gelatin
1/2 c hot water
1/2 tsp ACV
1/4 tsp honey
1/4 tsp coconut oil

It was watery, so I'll reduce the water next time (and I'd like to try the cham tea/yogurt adds). I just let it sit on my hair in the shower. I have much more body after the PT.

Hey IAgirl, how about a protein spray recipe??

solidgold · 04-13-2011, 12:11 PM

So... funny story.

Once my hair completely dried, I was admiring how full and curly it was, except for a stripe on the top of my head. The coconut oil in my PT must have pooled on top of the mixture, because I have an oil slick running from my bangs to the crown of my head, exactly where I poured the PT. Re-showering and washing my hair again is not an option, so I tried baby powder, but it didn't remove the oil (it did make it thicker!). So I just bobby-pinned my bangs back (see the attached pic--you can see that my hair is normally a reddish brown but the oil makes it a dark brown. Sorry for the lack of makeup and urgh, I'm looking old!) and I'll probably wash tomorrow, though I hate to wash 2 days in a row.

Next time, no oil in the PT! Otherwise, my hair looks and feels so soft and bouncy.

IAgirl · 04-13-2011, 12:39 PM

He hee, if you're looking old, then I'm in serious trouble! I have totally done the non-dispersed oil slick thing.
Here's how you get around it if you still want the oil in there: Make up the PT about 20 to 30 minutes before you need it. It will begin to cool and "set." Then take an immersion blender or electric beaters to it or put in in a blender and mix it very thoroughly. Use right away.

Protein spray...
Great idea, SolidGold! I have not tried this yet, but I think I'm going to make one. Oh, the challenge! I have some hydrolyzed proteins, but if you want to start making your own you can get some "Neutral Protein FIller" from Sally's and dilute it with water in a spray bottle. http://www.sallybeauty.com/Neutral-P...?cm_vc=SEARCHI think you'd use 1-2 tablespoons in 1/2 cup water. That might be strong. Or better yet, in chamomile or nettle herbal tea for shine and body. A little conditioner could definitely go in there.

Ouidad makes a spray called "Botanical Boost" which is basically what I described above (and totally CG), maybe more conditioner-y, it is $16 for 8.5 oz, but you don't use much at a time. I did buy a sample-size. It is very nice if you just want to buy a spray-on protein-rich product. Like a super-light conditioner. There is almost no scent at all - Huge plus for me!http://www.ouidad.com/Botanical-Boost
http://www.amazon.com/Ouidad-8-5-oz-.../dp/B0001Y74UY

solidgold · 04-14-2011, 09:15 AM

Thanks for the recs, IAgirl. Did I mention I went to college in and rode my bike across Iowa (not at the same time)?

IAgirl · 04-14-2011, 09:46 AM

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Thanks for the recs, IAgirl. Did I mention I went to college in and rode my bike across Iowa (not at the same time)?

So you rode on RAGBRAI? Or did you do your own thing?

solidgold · 04-14-2011, 09:48 AM

Yup, I did RAGBRAI in 2008. So much fun! Have you ever done it?