product that gives me waves instead of curls?

Hi! I'm a newbie and I have what may be a strange question? I have 2b hair and I've been hunting for a product that DOESN'T enhance my curls but doesn't make my hair stick straight either. When I was young (before I discovered the CG method) I used to just comb my hair after I stepped out of the shower and I would end up with very fluffy puffy curls when my hair dried (not the best look). By the second day however after having slept on my hair a night my hair would sometimes look very sleek and shiny with just a bit of wave throughout and at the bottom. I've never been able to find a product that will give me that type of hair on the first day though. Does anyone have any ideas? I've tried gels like AnGel, but these make my curls too clumpy and well defined and when I try to finger comb them to loosen them up I just end up with weird mats. I'm thinking maybe I need some sort of anti-frizz serum instead? Something that will stop the poofy fluffiness and give me gentle large waves rather than individual curls (something like the picture I'm attaching). Thanks in advance for any suggestions and/or advice!
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Hi! I'm a newbie and I have what may be a strange question? I have 2b hair and I've been hunting for a product that DOESN'T enhance my curls but doesn't make my hair stick straight either. When I was young (before I discovered the CG method) I used to just comb my hair after I stepped out of the shower and I would end up with very fluffy puffy curls when my hair dried (not the best look). By the second day however after having slept on my hair a night my hair would sometimes look very sleek and shiny with just a bit of wave throughout and at the bottom. I've never been able to find a product that will give me that type of hair on the first day though. Does anyone have any ideas? I've tried gels like AnGel, but these make my curls too clumpy and well defined and when I try to finger comb them to loosen them up I just end up with weird mats. I'm thinking maybe I need some sort of anti-frizz serum instead? Something that will stop the poofy fluffiness and give me gentle large waves rather than individual curls (something like the picture I'm attaching). Thanks in advance for any suggestions and/or advice!
Originally Posted by sabibs
Try a pre-poo with coconut oil. Melt a pea size lump in your palms and distribute it through your hair, then Cowash. Rinse with 1T apple cider vinegar in a large tumbler of water.
When you have put in your leave in or gel, etc. comb your hair smoothly rather than scrunching.
Let it air.
When your hair is totally dry, dampen a hairbrush and
brush small sections from underneath, smoothing the top with your hand.Add a tiny bit of gel by coating your palms and smoothing it over your hair.

The model's hair in the picture was probably heat styled.
I find I get much, much less frizz, less tangling, better results overall when I push my hair to be as curly as it is, not trying to stretch it or anything.

If you want it to look straight like that right away, a salon blow-out will do the trick

And also, if it looks how you want on the second day, why not just wait another day or two before washing it again, and get a few days of the hair you like?

Also if your hair dries easily, you could try twisting it into a bun when it's damp to stretch it as it dries.
2c / C / iii (FIA)
Med-Coarse, LowPorosity, NormalElast (LCLF)

Shoulder-Length now.

Wash: DevaCare Low Poo
Detangle & Rinseout: Walgreens or Sally's Conditioning Balm (always)
Leave-in: DevaCare OneC (budget choice is GFTN)
Style: ReCoil & DevaCare Arc Angel (budget choices are HESMU or Got2BSpikedUp)

Henna!

Last edited by Robin-in-FL; 04-10-2011 at 03:16 PM.
I find I get much, much less frizz, less tangling, better results overall when I push my hair to be as curly as it is, not trying to stretch it or anything.

If you want it to look straight like that right away, a salon blow-out will do the trick

And also, if it looks how you want on the second day, why not just wait another day or two before washing it again, and get a few days of the hair you like?

Also if your hair dries easily, you could try twisting it into a bun when it's damp to stretch it as it dries.
Originally Posted by Robin-in-FL
Thanks for the advice . Unfortunately I pretty much have to shampoo every other day because my roots get greasy and flat by the third day. I may try the bun thing though.
You might find that if you shampoo less frequently, you won't get as greasy as quickly. It will take your hair time to adjust but if you tough it out, it should start producing less.
Maybe try a gel with a lighter hold. I noticed if I comb my LI in instaed of raking and use a lighter gel I get more waves than curls. My hair is also more wavy the 2nd day unless I spritz and diffuse. I use HETT and it's pretty light. You may want to comb the gel in while soaking wet and air dry. My hair has low elasticity so that may be why these things work for me.
V05 Lime cowash/SN Pomegranite RO FSG and LOOB
I still use Tresemme Fine Mist hairspray for the side swept bangs...I can't live without it!
Curl Genie: Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, low elasticity, medium density
I'd suggest trying homemade flax seed gel (FSG). FSG helps to give waves definition, but doesn't have much hold. I'd guess this should give you the soft waves you are looking for.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
I'd suggest trying homemade flax seed gel (FSG). FSG helps to give waves definition, but doesn't have much hold. I'd guess this should give you the soft waves you are looking for.
Originally Posted by pedaheh
Thanks for the suggestion! I may try that. You use coconut oil as a prewash? How do you get it to not make your hair super greasy? I've tried it a couple of times and maybe I just haven't rinsed it out well enough but it always leaves my hair super greasy and stringy. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong .
Maybe try a gel with a lighter hold. I noticed if I comb my LI in instaed of raking and use a lighter gel I get more waves than curls. My hair is also more wavy the 2nd day unless I spritz and diffuse. I use HETT and it's pretty light. You may want to comb the gel in while soaking wet and air dry. My hair has low elasticity so that may be why these things work for me.
Originally Posted by ththd
I was thinking about trying HETT actually since I've seen it recommended several times. Thanks!
I'd suggest trying homemade flax seed gel (FSG). FSG helps to give waves definition, but doesn't have much hold. I'd guess this should give you the soft waves you are looking for.
Originally Posted by pedaheh
Thanks for the suggestion! I may try that. You use coconut oil as a prewash? How do you get it to not make your hair super greasy? I've tried it a couple of times and maybe I just haven't rinsed it out well enough but it always leaves my hair super greasy and stringy. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong .
Originally Posted by sabibs
It cowashes right out for me. Things work differently for different people. Lots of people end up with a greasy mess.
Coconut oil is great for popping popcorn in. It will look like the oil it is burning, but it isn't.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Hi! I'm a newbie and I have what may be a strange question? I have 2b hair and I've been hunting for a product that DOESN'T enhance my curls but doesn't make my hair stick straight either. When I was young (before I discovered the CG method) I used to just comb my hair after I stepped out of the shower and I would end up with very fluffy puffy curls when my hair dried (not the best look). By the second day however after having slept on my hair a night my hair would sometimes look very sleek and shiny with just a bit of wave throughout and at the bottom. I've never been able to find a product that will give me that type of hair on the first day though. Does anyone have any ideas? I've tried gels like AnGel, but these make my curls too clumpy and well defined and when I try to finger comb them to loosen them up I just end up with weird mats. I'm thinking maybe I need some sort of anti-frizz serum instead? Something that will stop the poofy fluffiness and give me gentle large waves rather than individual curls (something like the picture I'm attaching). Thanks in advance for any suggestions and/or advice!
Originally Posted by sabibs
Try a pre-poo with coconut oil. Melt a pea size lump in your palms and distribute it through your hair, then Cowash. Rinse with 1T apple cider vinegar in a large tumbler of water.
When you have put in your leave in or gel, etc. comb your hair smoothly rather than scrunching.
Let it air.
When your hair is totally dry, dampen a hairbrush and
brush small sections from underneath, smoothing the top with your hand.Add a tiny bit of gel by coating your palms and smoothing it over your hair.

The model's hair in the picture was probably heat styled.
Originally Posted by crwritt
Ok, so I have to admit I was a bit skeptical of your suggestions at first because I'd read ACV can really dry out hair and I've had bad experiences with coconut oil making my hair greasy and stringy. But after yet another failed attempt to deep condition my hair with coconut oil I figured it probably can't make my hair look THAT much worse to try to rinse it with ACV. It worked AMAZINGLY! My hair is so soft and shiny !! I actually didn't even need to use the brush. The ACV made my hair so smooth I only had to use a tiny bit of gel, so when my hair dried I finger-combed it easy with no gunky mats resulting! Thank you so much for the suggestions!!!
Hi! I'm a newbie and I have what may be a strange question? I have 2b hair and I've been hunting for a product that DOESN'T enhance my curls but doesn't make my hair stick straight either. When I was young (before I discovered the CG method) I used to just comb my hair after I stepped out of the shower and I would end up with very fluffy puffy curls when my hair dried (not the best look). By the second day however after having slept on my hair a night my hair would sometimes look very sleek and shiny with just a bit of wave throughout and at the bottom. I've never been able to find a product that will give me that type of hair on the first day though. Does anyone have any ideas? I've tried gels like AnGel, but these make my curls too clumpy and well defined and when I try to finger comb them to loosen them up I just end up with weird mats. I'm thinking maybe I need some sort of anti-frizz serum instead? Something that will stop the poofy fluffiness and give me gentle large waves rather than individual curls (something like the picture I'm attaching). Thanks in advance for any suggestions and/or advice!
Originally Posted by sabibs
Try a pre-poo with coconut oil. Melt a pea size lump in your palms and distribute it through your hair, then Cowash. Rinse with 1T apple cider vinegar in a large tumbler of water.
When you have put in your leave in or gel, etc. comb your hair smoothly rather than scrunching.
Let it air.
When your hair is totally dry, dampen a hairbrush and
brush small sections from underneath, smoothing the top with your hand.Add a tiny bit of gel by coating your palms and smoothing it over your hair.

The model's hair in the picture was probably heat styled.
Originally Posted by crwritt
Ok, so I have to admit I was a bit skeptical of your suggestions at first because I'd read ACV can really dry out hair and I've had bad experiences with coconut oil making my hair greasy and stringy. But after yet another failed attempt to deep condition my hair with coconut oil I figured it probably can't make my hair look THAT much worse to try to rinse it with ACV. It worked AMAZINGLY! My hair is so soft and shiny !! I actually didn't even need to use the brush. The ACV made my hair so smooth I only had to use a tiny bit of gel, so when my hair dried I finger-combed it easy with no gunky mats resulting! Thank you so much for the suggestions!!!
Originally Posted by sabibs
I'm glad to hear this worked for you. I've done this routine a few times (some people call it oil shampooing) and it makes my hair lay more smoothly
and somewhat relaxes the curl, so I thought it was worth passing along.Here my hair is after the usual "Deva Set"

Here it is after oil shampooing

Last edited by crwritt; 04-15-2011 at 12:29 PM.

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