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Old 05-06-2011, 07:19 PM   #41
 
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I tried washing with commercial AVG (Lily of the Desert, Aloe 80 Organics, Skin Soothing Aloe Gel) which has carbomer (thickener) and a preservative and a couple of other ingredients.

Not impressed, nowhere near the same results.
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:31 AM   #42
 
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I've wondered before about washing with aloe, but have never actually done it! I sure hope I can have your results - I have no idea about my porosity and have been pretty rough on my hair as of late. My favorite co-wash randomly stopped working for me, even after clarifying, and I just said screw it and have not only been shampooing, but not applying adequate moisture afterward since I have been using up the old co-wash conditioner instead of buying a new one and now I have a breakage halo. I'm going to pick up some aloe juice ASAP to try this out!
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I have to bump this thread, because I tried the aloe wash, too, only with AVG (Lily of the Desert brand). And it was absolutely fantastic! I thought my hair was iffy with aloe, but it was amazing on my scalp! I even mixed some brown sugar into it and used it like a scrub. It was AMAZING! I have lots of drying/stripping stuff (that's totally CG, BTW) that I have to use up, and this is amazing for adding the moisture my scalp needs! After I wash with whatever, I take a little of this stuff and rub it all over my scalp and rinse. It's the best moisturizer. EVER. I cannot say enough good stuff about this, and I would have never even thought of trying it if it weren't for IAgirl. So, once again, I owe my success to you, IAgirl!! And it doesn't even make me itchy. WHOA!!! My scalp is loving you right now.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:12 AM   #44
 
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Whoa! Bowled over by enthusiasm! Glad you like it so much.

I love using AV gel. The AV juice kind of ends up in one spot, so I haven't used it often enough because I have juice right now - but a bottle of AVgel in the pantry awaits! It really is great stuff.

I haven't tried mixing in sugar for a scrub... Sounds good. Very creative.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:34 AM   #45
 
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Hmmm I'm going to have to try this. I think I'll skip the glycerin but wondering if thickening up the AVJ with xanthan gum or HEC (ala Simple Aloe Jelly) would help application. I have most of a gallon of FOTE AVJ
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:13 AM   #46
 
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I tried this method with AOMM, the only aloe product I have on hand (except Simple Aloe Jelly... hmmm...). I'm not sure what my reaction is--my hair is about the same as it was yesterday.

I usually use aloe as a frizz-killer. I put a drop or two in wet hands and smooth it over the surface of my hair, and it really smooths out the frizz and "refreshes" my hair.

I'd like to try this with pure AVG, next time I have some on hand.
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:26 AM   #47
 
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MissBanjo, thickening it is a really good idea so you know where the juice is once you put it on your head. It also just feels nicer to smush around in your hair.

I didn't think that the processed aloe products were as good as the ones meant to be drink-able.
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Yeah, I'm so glad I have this stuff around! It's great for my skin, and we always buy some for sunburns! Glad I can put this stuff to use in a positive way.

I actually think my aloe is processed -- it doesn't say it's drinkable or that you can eat it or anything. It also has a lot of additives -- bamboo, glucose, carbomer, Organic "Aloesorb" (Aloe Barbadenis Leaf Polysaccharides), Vitamins E, A, and C, phenoxyethanol, glucose oxidase, lactoperoxidase, and sodium hydroxide. I wonder if all of those preservatives and such are harmful to your hair! My old aloe tube didn't have all the preservatives -- just aloe and one other ingredient, I think. Then this big bottle of aloe came along, and it's a different brand -- and now it's got a bunch of other junk in it! It smells awful, too. Whatever, it works on my hair!
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Old 06-26-2011, 12:48 PM   #49
 
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I decided to make it with xanthan gum since my hair seems to not like products with HEC. I really need to put that HEC up on the swap board.

I shall call it Aloe-X Jelly

Application went well since it was thick enough. I'm a little itchy but I think that's due to the xanthan. I made sure to rinse/scrub well. IDK, I blended 1/2 cup FOTE AVJ (stuff you can drink from Walmart) and 1/2 tsp xanthan gum. I'll try it the rest of the week and see.
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ALOE-X! I love it!

I did that last night and I can't say I liked the Xanthan gum. A little itchy too - and a little drying, it seemed.
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I'm gonna try this tonite i think, then co wash it out in the morning. Theres so many posts its hard to understand everything so i have a few questions. What are the benefits of this wash? How will i know if it works or not? and is there like a rule that says certain hair types like/dont like aloe vera? just wondering, thanks
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No rules that I know of - as far as hair types responding poorly to aloe, I haven't detected a pattern and I keep meaning to take a poll about this.

You use this like a shampoo or like a conditioner (your choice), it's not really meant as a leave-in treatment although aloe is good in styling.

It's moisturizing without having build-up promoting creamy conditioning ingredients, that makes it good for those of us who get weighed down by cowashing. It also has some amino acids and other aloe-related goodies. It cleanses mildly.
If it works? Your scalp will feel fresh, your hair will feel clean, but not squeaky clean. For those of us who like it, it leaves the hair wavier/curlier than cowashing or water-washing or shampooing and with a nice, silky feel.

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Old 07-20-2011, 07:32 PM   #53
 
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So my hair seems to be fine with aloe these days. Well, at least with SS CEJ. I got a gallon of drinkable aloe from walmart. I plan to crack that bad boy open next time I make FSG and then use some to wash my hair with too. Might try it as a body wash also.
I plan to freeze the excess. Is this fine? Or is there some reason not to freeze it?
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I haven't tried freezing it yet (like in ice cube trays or muffin tins). I wonder if it might separate a bit when thawed and if that would actually be a problem or not. IF it's a liquid, probably not. I have a liquid right now that has tiny aloe leaf bits in it (white) that I have to strain out before using - just to warn ya!
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That's really funny. Must be a teeny, weeny asterisk next to the "100% Aloe."

I think the FSG might work for somebody else - maybe with more porous hair or drier hair than mine. Maybe you need to add a bit of glycerin to the FSG.

Seems to me that darn near all the aloe gets rinsed out. So... WTH! Surely there are some compounds that get bound to the hair, temporarily.

If you try it and hate it, just blame me I can take it.
I'm wondering about making a gel from aloe vera JUICE and soaking whole flax seeds in it. I liked my hair when I tried this wash using the Lily of the Valley aloe gel...but I got itchy. My theory is that it was the carrageenan used to gelify the juice.

Or, I just found some AVG online that is gelified using Acrylates/C-10 Alkyl Acrylates Crosspolymer and preserved with 0.3% DMDM HYDANTOIN and 0.2% DIAZOLIDINYL UREA.

Also I'm wondering if you guys got itchy by washing with AVG gelified with xanthan, if I should even bother trying it in my FSG. I get itchy if you look at me sideways.
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I usually don't have a problem with things like this (Acrylates/C-10 Alkyl Acrylates Crosspolymer) but I have a problem with Diazolindyl urea & contact dermatitis, that's a pretty common irritant.

Never had a problem with xanthan gum.

If you soak whole flax seeds in aloe vera juice overnight you will have a nice gel in the morning (post-straining). What a super idea...
On my "to try" list!
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Can you boil aloe? Or does boiling do bad things to it? Adding some aloe to my flax soaking liquid does sound intriguing.
Does xanthum require heat to thicken? Or will it thicken at any liquid temperature?

I've been playing around some with the aloe wash. Straight aloe juice was too strong for me so I diluted it some. I haven't really formed an opinion yet, but I know I would like it thicker.
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Can you boil aloe? Or does boiling do bad things to it? Adding some aloe to my flax soaking liquid does sound intriguing.
Does xanthum require heat to thicken? Or will it thicken at any liquid temperature?

I've been playing around some with the aloe wash. Straight aloe juice was too strong for me so I diluted it some. I haven't really formed an opinion yet, but I know I would like it thicker.
Not sure about boiling aloe - that would inactivate any enzymes. The acids should stay okay. As far as being a humectant goes, the times I've had to re-boil FSG+ aloe, it's been fine.
Xanthan gum doesn't require heating to dissolve, just a lot of mixing. It will dissolve faster in a warm liquid, though.

I have to dilute the aloe too - it stings straight from the bottle!
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I'm bumping up this older thread!

I just picked up Lily of the Desert AVG and really want to try aloe-washing. I think my scalp really likes aloe and it might be a very good co-washing alternative for me. Thinking of alternating aloe-washing with low-pooing.

Will AVG + massaging be able to remove dirt, emulsify sebum/oil the same way conditioner-washing can? Knowledgeable curlies, I need your advice!

My bottle of Lily of the Desert AVG contains aloe (inner fillet), carrangeenan (thickening agent), citric acid (ph stabilizer), potassium sorbate (mold inhibitor).

It is edible and has to be refrigerated after opening. It also says to consume within 5-6 months of opening.
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