I keep messing up...have you?

Two weeks in and I feel I am back to square one!

I have been using a low-poo about 2x a week and cowash inbetween. A couple of times that I have used a conditioner that a salon sold me (in a set with sulfate-free poo). Today I looked closer and realized is has cones in it. boo.. did a sulfate wash today.

Also today I did a PT followed by a DT consisting of olive oil and honey. When I got to the grocery store today I realized that I didn't have the DT completely rinsed out and my scalp was icky. :P (no more home made stuff for me for a while) Came home and rewashed with the low-poo.

sigh....I just poured over the before/after thread for inspiration. Yesterday my hair was so dry I almost ran for my conditioner with cones.

The upside to all of this is that I feel I have more hair. I think it is from the protein in the low-poo, gel and PT.

Guess I really don't have a question other than...did any of you do any mess ups and how hard was it to recover?

Thanks.
2a (nc.com), 2a/2bFii (fia), normal porosity

Cowash:TN Radiant Volume
RO TN Moisturizing .
Styling products:AVG, Ecostyler Crystal
Styling Methods: Pixie-style diffusing - total fav
Low-poo: AO Nourishing Lavender

http://designdedication.com

saved by grace, walking by faith
Oh don't get me started. I didn't even figure out how to style my hair properly until February I think, 6 months after i went CG. I am pretty wary of anything that comes from salons. I actually haven't been in a salon for over a year. I just get my own products and trim my own hair.
Mod CG since 8/2010
2cFii (fia), normal/normal, protein junkie. Itchy and allergic wavy!
Growing out
http://public.fotki.com/Mountaincurl/
pw: mountaincurl
Try not to get too discouraged. I think it takes everyone a while to find products and techniques that work best for them. And very often, they can completely change and stop working for no reason!! It can be hard because of the weather and dew points changing too. Keep reading and experimenting and something is bound to work!!! Good luck!!!!
2a, fine-med. text, normal porosity (I think)

[FONT=Going back and forth between Herbal Essence Don't Fade On Me shampoo and condish and L'oreal Sulfate Free shampoo

Stylers-
- Not Your Mother's Curl Cream, La Bella Sports Gel, Aussie Sprunch Spray

[/COLOR][/FONT] [I][B]My waves are finally getting stronger thanks to weekly PTs and longer hair in general. Still trying to grow it out though!

mod-CG since December '10

I have Celiac's Disease so no gluten please!

My hair is basically my hobby!!

http://balancedbeauty.blogspot.com/
I feel like I'm still experimenting with products and techniques. Luckily, things usually turn out ok to great since I have some experience under my belt. You're doing fine, Techmom! This is all part of the process.
Sort of CG sometimes, but not really
2B, medium? normal porosity and elasticity?

Cleansers -
Suave Clarifying, Philosophy Happy Birthday Beautiful

Stylers - BRHG, re:coil, Ion Hairspray

I live in the NYC area.


Oh don't get me started. I didn't even figure out how to style my hair properly until February I think, 6 months after i went CG. I am pretty wary of anything that comes from salons. I actually haven't been in a salon for over a year. I just get my own products and trim my own hair.
Originally Posted by Mountaincurl
I haven't, in all my life, purchased stuff from the salon until this batch and that is was led me to nc. I had my hair colored and it washed out so I went back two weeks later and had it redone. They seemed to blame my shampoo, so I thought heck if I'm spending the dough ($90!) on a color job, I want to save it. Hence the purchase. However, I am such a cheapy that I thought I can probably find a cheaper version. I figured out that is was the sulfates that they were against. So, off to google I went to search for sulfate-free shampoo.

I found this site and then the before/after thread. SOLD in three seconds!

I'm hanging in there because my husband keeps calling me curly and "youngster".

I'm still feeling a bit ...slimy from the DT this morning so I'll probably low-poo again tomorrow
2a (nc.com), 2a/2bFii (fia), normal porosity

Cowash:TN Radiant Volume
RO TN Moisturizing .
Styling products:AVG, Ecostyler Crystal
Styling Methods: Pixie-style diffusing - total fav
Low-poo: AO Nourishing Lavender

http://designdedication.com

saved by grace, walking by faith
I think olive oil is harder to wash out for those of us with finer hair textures! I took a tip from Pedaheh and started using coconut oil. Best $4 I have spent in a LONG time! I started noticing my hands were super soft from rubbing it in my hair so I not only use it as a pre-poo treatment but now I use it under my smell good lotion (which..smells awesome, but isn't very moisturizing) and my skin hasn't been this soft in a long time.
I keep messing up too. This is my 4th week and I really thought I had gotten rid of all my products with 'cones, but I had this curl cream that just HATED my hair and realized it had a 'cone after I re-read the ingredients to see why it hated me so much.
http://www.facebook.com/sweetcurlselixirs
Cheetara and Hippiechic, thanks for the encouragement.

Swtndspcy - where do you get coconut oil and what type of packaging is it in? What is the purpose of a pre-poo?
2a (nc.com), 2a/2bFii (fia), normal porosity

Cowash:TN Radiant Volume
RO TN Moisturizing .
Styling products:AVG, Ecostyler Crystal
Styling Methods: Pixie-style diffusing - total fav
Low-poo: AO Nourishing Lavender

http://designdedication.com

saved by grace, walking by faith
I got it at Wal-mart, it's with the cooking oils! It was Lou-ana I think.
Look for extra virgin coconut oil. Unlike olive oil, it has virtually no smell (the cooking kind anyway.. I have seen extra virgin coconut oil online that SAY they still have the coconut scent, but IDK). I thought it wouldn't wash out just like olive oil never does but it really did wash out with a co-wash!
Here is the link to the blog explaining the benefits of coconut oil.
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Coconut Oil: Knowledge from our ancestors to our scientists

I have used it just like Pedaheh says she uses it... apply it to dry hair, just enough to be lightly greasy but not an oil slick, usually about a 10 - 30 minutes before I shower. (Although I think Pedaheh says she leaves in it overnight).
I started using it to put more moisture in my incredibly thirsty hair, and co-washing it out prevents me from getting weighed down. My hair has never been more moisturized since starting using it!
On a side note: I have horrible dry rough cracked heels.. I have used the coconut oil on them once a day for the last week, and I can actually pumice some of the dryness off! A first for me!
http://www.facebook.com/sweetcurlselixirs

Last edited by swtndspcy; 04-28-2011 at 03:41 PM.
When I first went CG (about a year ago), I would get really worked up every time I made a mistake or had to do something non-CG (e.g. getting my hair styled for a wedding I was in and then having to clarify after).

What I've learned with time is that the core principal of the CG method (and other curl systems, like Ouidad) is that curly hair needs moisture and needs to be able to retain it. Giving up sulfates and silicones is a great way to restore moisture to your hair, but it doesn't mean it's the end of the world if you have to clarify from time to time...just make sure that you counter the drying effect with more moisture. This may be considered heretical to some on these boards, but I'm not convinced that one couldn't achieve the same results as going CG by continuing to use sulfates, but also using lots of heavy-duty conditioner.

This is all a long way of me saying that it's not worth it to stress yourself out too much over little mistakes because they make no difference in the long run. In the past few months, there have been plenty of times I've needed to clarify or that I've slipped up and done other no-nos (like straightening) and these things do dry my hair out temporarily, but, if I do repairing treatments and return to my regular routine, it always recovers in a few days, and was never noticeably different to any other than me in the first place.
waves, loose coils, and cherub curls (=mixed 2s through 3a), very fine texture overall (but with medium and even coarse strands scattered throughout)

Last edited by Sbudsky; 04-30-2011 at 08:15 AM.
When I first went CG (about a year ago), I would get really worked up every time I made a mistake or had to do something non-CG (e.g. getting my hair styled for a wedding I was in and then having to clarify after).

What I've learned with time is that the core principal of the CG method (and other curl systems, like Ouidad) is that curly hair needs to moisture and needs to be able to retain it. Giving up sulfates and silicones is a great way to restore moisture to your hair, but it doesn't mean it's the end of the world if you have to clarify from time to time...just make sure that you counter the drying effect with more moisture. This may be considered heretical to some on these boards, but I'm not convinced that one couldn't achieve the same results as going CG by continuing to use sulfates, but also using lots of heavy-duty conditioner.

This is all a long way of me saying that it's not worth it to stress yourself out too much over little mistakes because they make no difference in the long run. In the past few months, there have been plenty of times I've needed to clarify or that I've slipped up and done other no-nos (like straightening) and these things do dry my hair out temporarily, but, if I do repairing treatments and return to my regular routine, it always recovers in a few days, and was never noticeably different to any other than me in the first place.
Originally Posted by Sbudsky

You are right. I just needed to take a deep breath. Today for the first time since I started, my hair felt soft when I rinsed out my conditioner. I was very encouraged. Thanks for your perspective.

swtndspcy- thanks for coconut oil info.
2a (nc.com), 2a/2bFii (fia), normal porosity

Cowash:TN Radiant Volume
RO TN Moisturizing .
Styling products:AVG, Ecostyler Crystal
Styling Methods: Pixie-style diffusing - total fav
Low-poo: AO Nourishing Lavender

http://designdedication.com

saved by grace, walking by faith
Tell me about it. I'm still so lost, and I've been doing the whole Mod-CG thing since the very beginning of December! I've figured my hair out a little better now, and know what it wants and doesn't want, but I don't always listen -- and neither does my hair! Don't feel too bad! I still haven't learned to avoid protein (been going back to the same HUGE bottle of protein-filled gel because it's the only one that works decently and doesn't make me itch), and I have coarse hair! You don't even know how many times I hear that coarse hair should avoid protein. I need to start listening, but I'll get the hint one time or another. My hair and scalp are so dry, but I don't DT nearly as often as I should (last treatment was months ago -- I plan to do one tomorrow). So, you're not alone! We all screw up, but there's no need to stress out. Everything about our hair is trial and error. Sometimes you have to try things and make some mistakes to learn something!
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
When I first went CG (about a year ago), I would get really worked up every time I made a mistake or had to do something non-CG (e.g. getting my hair styled for a wedding I was in and then having to clarify after).

What I've learned with time is that the core principal of the CG method (and other curl systems, like Ouidad) is that curly hair needs to moisture and needs to be able to retain it. Giving up sulfates and silicones is a great way to restore moisture to your hair, but it doesn't mean it's the end of the world if you have to clarify from time to time...just make sure that you counter the drying effect with more moisture. This may be considered heretical to some on these boards, but I'm not convinced that one couldn't achieve the same results as going CG by continuing to use sulfates, but also using lots of heavy-duty conditioner.

This is all a long way of me saying that it's not worth it to stress yourself out too much over little mistakes because they make no difference in the long run. In the past few months, there have been plenty of times I've needed to clarify or that I've slipped up and done other no-nos (like straightening) and these things do dry my hair out temporarily, but, if I do repairing treatments and return to my regular routine, it always recovers in a few days, and was never noticeably different to any other than me in the first place.
Originally Posted by Sbudsky

You are right. I just needed to take a deep breath. Today for the first time since I started, my hair felt soft when I rinsed out my conditioner. I was very encouraged. Thanks for your perspective.

swtndspcy- thanks for coconut oil info.
Originally Posted by techmom
YQW! I honestly didn't hold out much hope that coconut oil would be any different than any other oil, but I figured for $4 it was definitely worth a try.
http://www.facebook.com/sweetcurlselixirs
Thanks wavynwild and others for the encouragement. I am probably just too anxious to get the point that I have an "after" picture for the before and after thread...but alas, a quick look at the thread keeps me going. I think I saw my first spiral today...so there is hope.
2a (nc.com), 2a/2bFii (fia), normal porosity

Cowash:TN Radiant Volume
RO TN Moisturizing .
Styling products:AVG, Ecostyler Crystal
Styling Methods: Pixie-style diffusing - total fav
Low-poo: AO Nourishing Lavender

http://designdedication.com

saved by grace, walking by faith
You're welcome! Don't worry -- you'll get there some day! I hate all this waiting, too.
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
I completely understand. I am very new to trying the CG method. At this point I think all the products I am use are CG friendly but I am not totally sure. But my hair is healthier than it has been in a very long time. My hair use to be about a 2b/2c but now I am now like a 2c/3a and get closer to a 3a everyday. but any advise/corrections are much appreciated!

2c/3a fine, very thick, med-high porousity(I think )

Co wash: sauve coconut naturals
Rinse out: tresemme naturals
Leave in: Softee coconut oil
Style: Biotera curl creme, aussie tizz no frizz gel.
Plop for 20-30 mins and then air dry

(I am new to CG I have been reading product labels and I am pretty sure all of the above are CG friendly, it not please dont be afraid to let me know )
Don't worry about it! The CG Police aren't gonna getcha! (or will they? ha hah ha! ok, they won't)


Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

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