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Kayjayess 07-12-2011 05:13 PM

Suggestions for my mom?
 
My mom is intrigued by my recent adventures with my curly hair. She has all but given up on her hair after years of trying so many things. I would like to help her regain some hope!

I would say she is 2a texture with 2b styling issues. She has very thin, very fine, very short, salt & pepper, frizzy curly hair. She needs volume and frizz control without getting oily or dirty-looking hair.

I scrunched some lightweight curl reviver in her hair today and even that little bit helped, but she is extremely hesitant to use any product due to previous results. She doesn't even use conditioner. I know she has just been using the wrong things! Any suggestions?

plunkybug 07-20-2011 01:27 AM

What is she using now? How does she style? How often does she wash?

Kayjayess 07-22-2011 04:47 PM

Right now she is using Potion Number 9 - the lighter spray type. I gave it to her and it seems to be working well.

I am still searching for the right light conditioner or leave-in, but she doesn't think she needs it. She is convinced it will make her hair limper.

She also thinks CG makes her hair look thinner. I think it is because her hair lays flat on her head and she just needs to start clipping to get some lift.

She currently teases (ack!) her hair to get volume and and then brushes the rest of her hair to get waves instead of curls. It's frizzy that way.

She washes her hair 2 or 3 times a week.

pedaheh 07-23-2011 11:07 AM

I think you should start her off with protein treatments. Protein helps shore up hair's internal structure to give the waves shape and the hair body. Should also help with the damage. The Ion effective care packets may be a good place to start. Since her hair doesn't need much moisture, she may not even had to use a conditioner after the ion PT. When her hair has more protein, it may react better to conditioner.
Other then that, I'm not the best person to ask. My hair can take lots of moisture and fairly heavy stylers. Here are some guesses.
Giovanni Direct leave in. It has some protein in it too. I don't think it is too heavy.
Spiral solutions firm hold gel. It has pretty good hold, but doesn't have much of a styler feel.
Switching to a low poo would be good too.
a microfiber towel to dry hair. Tell her to squeeze the water out, and not rub.
HTH

IAgirl 07-24-2011 03:12 PM

If your mom doesn't like conditioner, she might be intrigued by the idea of a pre-shampoo conditioning with either conditioner or with a small bit of oil (couple drops) really worked into hair and scalp. Coconut is great for grays, but otherwise it can be too heavy for fine hair and almond or apricot kernel oils might be better.
Spray-on conditioners are great for fine hair.
When my hair was very short, I never used conditioner and my hair was super-healthy. I did make sure to finger comb/massage my scalp it before washing to distribute the sebum - although if your mother is over 50, her skin is probably less "oily" so a bit of extra oil is a good thing.

I liked Burt's Bees Super Shiny conditioner as a rinse-out and leave-in in the past (allergic to an ingredient now). It wasn't too heavy. Conditioner leave-ins do help with frizz, but with fine and very short hair, we're talking a very small amount.

Teasing really ruins hair. Look at this photo: Hairdresser Austin, Texas - Hair Color Specialist - Board Certified Master Haircolorist Specialist- Sandy Kurtzman, Master Hair Colorist - Austin Hair Salon - Austin Salon - Color Salon Clipping works great, but it takes some learning and dexterity (and styling product). And some "root shaking" to restore fullness when dry.

My mother has thinning hair which has always been fine and "curly" (big, loose curls - probably wavy curls, it's been short all my life) and she keeps it really short (see-your-scalp-short) and I made her a lovely protein-enriched conditioner which makes her hair shine. I would love to show her how to clip for volume and so on, but somewhere in there I'd be crossing the "bossy" line and imposing my values, which would turn her off! Moms are tricky. I'll wait for her to ask me, or to be able to drop it into a conversation like, "Remember how flat my hair was as a kid? It still is, but I learned a trick..."


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