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Old 08-18-2013, 07:16 PM   #21
 
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I would say something like you already stated: please don't use thinning shears, razors, or slide scissors down length of my hair. Thins it too much and I end up with too many split ends and breakage. I really do not want any of that and I will not pay for my cut if any of that happens. Are you okay with that?

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Old 08-20-2013, 11:20 AM   #22
 
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I'm only a month CG and rockin some limp ass waves so far.
Do you have fine hair? I have fine hair and it took me a while into CG to realize how much protein my hair needed/liked. Protein gives me volume.
I do believe my hair is fine, and it does seem to really love protein. It wants protein almost every day. I do a PT every few days but I was thinking of picking up some Aubrey Organics conditioner to help out with that.

I've dyed and highlighted my hair many times and it seems like that has made some of my hair very very fine. On my highlights I can see the hair get thinner where the bleached part begins. So lesson learned there, never doing that again. That hair also refuses to curl, so it looks a bit silly, all these wavy bits with a straighty bit here and there. But it's so much easier to do in the mornings that I just don't even care if I look a little silly.
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This is really interesting. I agree wholeheartedly about razoring, but I actually really like what thinning shears just on the last 3"-4" do for my curls.

I've got medium texture 2b waves on my top canopy and super-fine 3a/b cherub curls at my temples and nape, and thinning shears on the ends of my waves makes each wave taper to a cute little point the way my cherub curls naturally do, making my whole head look more uniform in texture. It's never caused any clumping issues for me.

Then again, I've never experienced any ripping with thinning shears and can't figure out how or why they'd cause split ends, so maybe I'm thinking of a different kind of thinning shears than you guys are talking about?
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Eek! I knew someone would ask and, unfortunately I don't know what it's called. She basically held her shears vertical, took sections of hair, and slid the open shears down them. That's a terrible description--I'll be getting my haircut in August and I can find out more then. Stay tuned?
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:58 PM   #25
 
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Glad I found this. The last time I had a haircut I still had a pixie, and razoring always made it look so cute. I wouldn't have blinked twice if a stylist used it on me now.
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Old 11-19-2013, 01:19 AM   #26
 
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Razors are terrible because they slice your hair at an angle we curlies are best with blunt cuts. In other words watch the way your stylist angles his or her shears properly.
Before I started wearing my hair exclusively naturallycurly I used to get razor cuts (picture that scene mullet look/short layers at the topped with a long thinned out mass at the bottom) and I loved it I'm not going to lie but my tastes have come a long way since then.thankyou for posting this as I was going to start letting stylists do what they want but now I know better. I'd much rather just keep my bob at the moment by asking for a simple straight across cut and of course the stylist awarded me with long layers. Thanks eyeroll* I'll never understand some of them. I need me a local curl whisperer.

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Old 11-19-2013, 01:25 AM   #27
 
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What about the thing where a stylist twists your hair and then kind of cuts along the twist to thin that out? My stylist did that all the time on my short hair (granted it was too short to curl, sooooo). Is that a no-no all around, or only if done at an angle?
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(picture that scene mullet look/short layers at the topped with a long thinned out mass at the bottom)
I just love this sentence.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:45 AM   #29
 
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I feel this thread!! The reason my hair is so short is because someone butchered mine with thinning shears as well, without even asking!!! I was SO PISSED!!

On straight hair it's lovely, not so much on curly. I really wanted to give my feedback to the stylist, but it would've come out all sorts of wrong and rude. Straight cut all the way! ...which is what I told the freaking stylist I wanted!

The twisting thing, probably not the best idea, and it could give you split ends pretty easily. My old neighbor did this when I had my really short pixie cut. Loved it, but my hair was also straight then. Couldn't imagine it on curly hair.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:39 PM   #30
 
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A year later, slowly but surely, the texturizing with thinning shears debacle has almost grown out on my almost waist length hair. It was done pre-CG and before I found this forum. My layers are also slowly coming along, the shortest layer is collar bone length. Been CG almost a year and been growing out the layers and guess what? I don't have the triangle or pyramid effect anymore. Pre-CG, I needed layers and more layers and struggled with the pyramid hair look. So, I am growing all of it out, and will keep subtle layers as done by the Ouidad stylist I found. Finally, I can also go 4-5 months between trims, whoo hoo
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:56 PM   #31
 
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Last December I went to a woman who allegedly specialized in cutting curly hair. She recommended something called a Helix cut to "bring out the curl" and said she preferred it over a Deva cut (which she was trained to do). I agreed, and she proceeded to take her shears, twist sections of hair and slide the blade down the length of the twist. She did my entire head. My hair was a horrible, stringy mess. I've trimmed a good 6 inches or more off to undo the damage. My hair is slowly recovering but it'll take another year before all the layering is gone, unless I do a big chop, which I have resisted so far. So - texturizing, razors, thinning - I say NOOOOO!!!!!! Never again.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:13 PM   #32
 
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I had a stylist who insisted that thinning my hair would be a great idea. I wear it straight a lot of the time because I don't always have the patience to air dry it, but even straight my thinned hair looked a mess. It was especially bad as it grew out, because my ends were so much thinner than my roots. I stopped going to her and nuked it from orbit--I mean, got a pixie cut--not long after.
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I have had the same issue. Last spring my 2a/2b hair was so full and thick. I went in for a trim with a different stylist and she began razoring layers into my long hair so it would have a "V" shape. She recommended that to me and at the time I didn't know anything so I just let her to it. I totally regret ever having that hair cut. My longest layer is lower back length and the rest of the layers are at my shoulders. While it does look nice straight, it looks awful on my natural hair. It always looks so thin and stringy now. It is going to take forever to grow out again

I look back on old pictures and can't believe how thick it was. Now it is so thin and sad looking!
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:58 PM   #34
 
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I have had the same issue. Last spring my 2a/2b hair was so full and thick. I went in for a trim with a different stylist and she began razoring layers into my long hair so it would have a "V" shape. She recommended that to me and at the time I didn't know anything so I just let her to it. I totally regret ever having that hair cut. My longest layer is lower back length and the rest of the layers are at my shoulders. While it does look nice straight, it looks awful on my natural hair. It always looks so thin and stringy now. It is going to take forever to grow out again

I look back on old pictures and can't believe how thick it was. Now it is so thin and sad looking!
Oh frankie.... lol I feel the pain.

ACTUALLY the reason I got the thinned out haircut was to "fix" my prior V-shape haircut. The stylist was lamenting that the bottom looked so thin from the V, so his way of "fixing" it was thinning it all the way up to my eyes/ears so that it is thin and horrible everywhere.... but more "even" in his mind. Lol. Sigh he didn't know, I was probably one of his very very few wavy/curly clients. I wish hair schools and salons would actually give a **** about curly hair and actually teach their stylists at least basic techniques. Eh. Anyway.

But this does remind me to warn others about the V-cut. I don't know. I have seen a V-cut on curly hair look good..... but for most people, I don't know. I don't think it's a great cut for most and it's best to go for a rounded cut. I also think you can only have very high density to pull it off. Would not recommend on low or medium density.

My V-cut was exactly how frankie describes. It was really thin toward the bottom. It didn't lay nice. It grew out terribly. It looked scraggly. Even my mom commented the hairstylist did not do a good job cutting my hair.
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My V-cut was exactly how frankie describes. It was really thin toward the bottom. It didn't lay nice. It grew out terribly. It looked scraggly. Even my mom commented the hairstylist did not do a good job cutting my hair.
^Referring to the V-cut before the thinning, to clarify.

The thinning-cut that followed the v-cut made things even worse.
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Oh my gosh. I'm so glad this was bumped. I have so many little lost scraggly curls. I know this is my problem.

I have a devacut scheduled on Saturday. Should I have the stylist take a couple of inches off to get rid of some of the old thinning shears cut?
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That's what I would do but it's up to you.
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It's pretty long right now (BSL), so I'm sure I can sacrifice a couple inches for the greater good of my hair and frizz fighting.
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What is a polite way to tell stylist not to use thinning sheers or razor on hair? Last time I went for curly cut with a new stylist, she used thinning sheers in one small area (both sides of head). I can barely tell a difference -- which is a good thing -- but I don't want them used again since my hair is thin enough as it is.
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What is a polite way to tell stylist not to use thinning sheers or razor on hair? Last time I went for curly cut with a new stylist, she used thinning sheers in one small area (both sides of head). I can barely tell a difference -- which is a good thing -- but I don't want them used again since my hair is thin enough as it is.
When you sit in the chair discussing what's about to happen, just say, "Please do not use thinning sheers or a razor on my hair. Thank you."
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