what to do about build up?

If you have build up... what do you do? Wash it out with a sulfate-free shampoo? baking soda followed by ACV? that's what I did when I started this whole shebang, but now I'm reading baking soda can cause lots of frizzies etc and I'm kind of reluctant.

and then where do you start in determining what is building up? And how do you choose which product to try next? Agh! I'm having some serious hair problems and hoping to run to the store tonight to start fixing this.
What products do you currently use?

I can tell I have some build up if my hair is just feeling a little gunky and gross. You could use a sulfate free shampoo or if it feels really nasty go ahead and use shampoo w/ sulfates. I use a sulfate shampoo about once every few months!

Shea Moisture, Giovanni or Renpure Organics all have low poos (sulfate free shampoos) in their line ups. Not sure about Garnier though.
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: CJ Beauticurls, CJ A&OO, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: Mop C, KCCC, SCE FSG
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

What do you suspect is building up? What have you been using now that you did not use in the past? Or what have you been doing differently?
Shampoo will remove silicones. Baking soda is kind of good for soap (bar soap) build-up and sometimes for conditioner build-up as a mild abrasive.
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Hey. Thanks for responding. I am currently standing in target trying to figure this out!

I started CG two months ago. I did a baking soda rinse followed by an ACV rinse. I am using suave aloe/water lily for my co wash and garnier fructose triple as a leave in. Scrunch with la looks aloe Vera nutracurl.


I don't k ow if I am using too much product or what but my hair was looking okay the first week and has gotten more and more stringy and limp since. I just kept plugging along not sure what to switch.

I have coarse strands and a lot of them. My hair is low porosity from the tests and description and I believe I am protien sensitive, which is why my current products dot have protein.

I will try to post a then and now pic if that helps. I came to target for giovani tea tree oil and of course they are sold out!! Ugh! They have one broken bottle of natures gate tea tree conditioner but I haven't looked yet to see if that's safe.

I was hoping for tree tea oil because I am havin dry scalp too. I've always had dry skin but I guess this could also be product build up if my hair is looking this bad.

Ugh! I was really hopig to buy as try something new tonight and I'm all thrown off my game. I was hoping to at least look at any KCCC products but I don't see any.
Oh I will try to post pics from my phone, hopefully it works.

The outside pic with sunglasses is my first week of CG and tr pic in my car with limp stringy hair is yesterday.

I get serious build up because I have hard water, low porosity hair and I like heavy products!

I do baking soda/apple cider vinegar rinse once a month. No extra frizz. Hair is instantly shinier and bouncier.

I've also started using kinky curly come clean once a week. Hair feels so much better when I use it. It's not stripped or dry feeling either, for me.

Your pictures are impressive. Real Difference. Do you only co-wash?
3a/b, fine texture, low porosity, normal elasticity, mod-CG 7/11/11

Poo: KC Come Clean, SM Moisture Retention
CO: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Renpure Argan Oil, YTCucumbers, Sevi Pumpkin
Style: AIF, HESMU, Biolage gelee, KCCC
LOOB for second day hair


Like BS/ACV rinses, limit protein/humectants.
Gorgeous hair in picture #1.
Overconditioned hair in picture #2.
Get thee some shampoo. The Kinky Curly Come Clean is a good one for removing conditioner build-up because of the detergents it contains, but others will help.
If shampoo scares you, then do the baking soda and ACV and use a light touch with conditioner. Cowashing AND conditioning are probably too much for you. Conditioner leaves a coating of conditioners on your hair (it's meant to do that) and 2 layers is probably too much for your silky hair.
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MWAH! I could kiss you both for responding, thanks! I left Target without anything since I wasn't really sure what to get. I didn't see any of the krunchy curly products, and like I said they were out of the GTTT stuff I went in for. I went to our local crunchy/organic grocery store and thankfully they DID have the giavanni tea tree shampoo -- and it was on sale! woo! But they didn't have the matching conditioner... and I wound up grabbing the Giavanni leave-in conditioner.

So what I'm hoping to do is do the GTTT shampoo to rinse out all of this conditioner build up and then I guess from now on just do a co-wash and rinse that out and then get out of the shower and continue scrunching with the LA looks stuff I've been using.

Does that sound like an okay plan? Is it possible the suave stuff or GF triple I was using before isn't problematic and its just that I was using too much? How much product do you normally use in your hair? Admittedly I was using a TON of conditioner. Like three palm fulls during the co-wash.

Also... I didn't even think about checking the giavanni stuff I bought tonight about proteins... I guess I will look into that and hopefully it won't be a problem. I don't know FOR SURE that I am protein sensitive... but when I was using the coconut suave (that contains protein) my hair was super tangly, even while trying to comb under runnign water with tons of conditioner. Also I think typically coarse/low porosity hair goes hand in hand with being resistant to protein, right?

I haven't played around with many products because I don't really feel like I can notice or tell when something is or isn't working... apparently not until two months go by and I finally see a picture from a couple of months ago and realize how far my hair has gone down the beaten path, lol.

Sorry for all of the questions but I really appreciate the help!
Are you sure your hair is coarse? It looks more medium/fine to me. Not doubting you; I'm sure you know your hair. But your hair looks much silkier than coarse hair is. I have verrrrry thick, coarse hair and our hair looks very different!
whurly girly (2C/3A).
thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!
If your hair is over conditioned (I agree that it looks like it is), then the protein in the giovanni products should help reverse it. An occasional low poo should help the over conditioning too.
This thread has links to other threads on how to diagnose hair. There is links on over conditioning in it.
How do you gauge your hairs condition?
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2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers

Last edited by pedaheh; 11-12-2011 at 07:52 AM.
Are you sure your hair is coarse? It looks more medium/fine to me. Not doubting you; I'm sure you know your hair. But your hair looks much silkier than coarse hair is. I have verrrrry thick, coarse hair and our hair looks very different!
Originally Posted by oh.hi.its.steph
I'm not totally confident my hair is coarse, but I am pretty sure it is.

Here is the description I was looking at when trying to figure out texture:

Coarse Hair
Coarse hair is much thicker and stronger than fine or medium hair, but typically does not bend and cannot hold a style well. It is also often dry and brittle, due to an overabundance of protein. Coarse hair is much harder to process and is often very resistant to chemical services. Products with a lot of protein should be avoided in favor of those with humectants and emollients.
from here: Live Curly, Live Free: Hair Texture

I don't really understand what it means by 'does not bend.' But looking at the strands, they seem thick to me, and my hair was usually dry before doing CG and my stylist always recommended a deep condition when I was in the salon. It also took a lot longer than 'normal' for my hair to take to color processing.

I definitely think I have low porosity hair -- I left strands in a cup of water for 24 hours and they were all floating... and conditioner doesn't seem to soak in to my hair. (probably why I'm having all of this build up now, lol) When I was using products with protein my hair was super tangly, like even globbed up with conditioner and udner running water it was a fight to get the wide tooth comb through it. Now that I've eliminated proteins that isn't a problem, and since the texture description I listed above even includes that protein should be avoided, I thought that confirmed the coarse thing.

But I am seriously so un-confident in my ability to know or understand my hair that someone could telll me it was fine and I probably wouldn't argue, haha.
If your hair is over conditioned (I agree that it looks like it is), then the protein in the giovanni products should help reverse it. An occasional low poo should help the over conditioning too.
This thread has links to other threads on how to diagnose hair. There is links on over conditioning in it.
How do you gauge your hairs condition?
Originally Posted by pedaheh

Oh thank you! That link (and all of the spin offs on that link!) were very helpful!
You definitely look over conditioned. I over condition easily so I do a low poo once a week. I was less than thrilled with cowashing until I tried Giovanni TTTT Conditioner, that stuff is great for cowash.
Southern Colorado Curly
Mix of 2s med-low porosity, med-fine texture, lots of hair
OMG. GTTT shampoo was the biggest mistake ever. I am guessing it was the protein. I came so close to shaving my head in the shower. It was so unbelievable I even took pics of my hair in the shower to show my protein loving BFF who introduced me to CG! My whole head was a nest and it took 25 minutes to detangle. It feels like straw, even worse than my initial baking soda scrub! Man I didn't think that was possible!

I hope it was worth it and got all of the conditioner out.

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