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Old 03-06-2012, 01:15 PM   #1
 
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Since I keep complaining about my spiderhairs, I figured I'd attach pics of both the wet stray hairs/"frizz" and the same spiderhairs/frizz once it's dry. I'll preface this by saying I know my hair could look a LOT worse and I've made a ton of progress and I feel bad complaining, but I'd really love to find a way to tame these.

Pics are from Saturday - I low-pooed with YTC, RO was YTC. Tried SM Curling Soufflee - just barely coated my hands with a pea size bit of it and raked through, combed to distribute, and scrunched the ends with a pea size bit of it (afraid of overdoing the oil), then topped with HETT mousse and SCC. LOVED the dry results - I got really good wave and curl enhancement from the SM and it even held up to the high winds. But you can clearly see in my wet and dry pics the misbehaving random hairs.

Monday I did the same routine at my boyfriend's house, and I believe I finally know what hard water is. He lives 20 miles NW of me in a town of 600 people, they're not on our city water and I wouldn't be surprised if their source is someone's backyard creek. Mine at home is not soft per say, but his shower wall and sink and all his glass dishes have a film of limescale and calcium buildup (gross in it's own right, as I'm buying a big jug of CLR this weekend) and Monday, my hair REFUSED to cooperate. Would not curl at all, had very limp waves, and a very disgusting "feel" to it... so that brings me to my 2nd part of the question - my water at home is not nearly as hard as I thought it was. Do you think my hair could've had such a bad reaction from his water in one day? I'm moving in with him this summer and honestly, until Monday had no idea his water sucked the life out of my hair so bad because I've always slept as late as possible and rocked 2nd day ponytails when staying with him before. So... HELP. How do I combat this??

This morning I showered at home and did the same routine yet again and I have great hair. So I'm suspecting it was the water.
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Old 03-06-2012, 01:40 PM   #2
 
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I totally know what you mean about those spider hairs -- your pics of your wet hair could be mine! And I seem to get more of them when my hair dries! I have no answers unfortunately... but I'd like to see what other people have to say about it!! (and sorry I can't help with the water issue... I have city water too)
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
 
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This might sound counter-intuitive, but have you tried combing your hair after applying your products? I notice the same thing with my hair as I scrunch in multiple products--the more stuff I add, the more spider hairs I get. But I notice that if I run a comb through my hair (I use a strange looking detangling/conditioner comb), it re-clumps. I do one last scrunch before I plop and it seems to keep things together a little more. You could also try looking up the super-soaker method.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:11 PM   #4
 
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I comb through every product I do. Like if I do LI, I comb it through, then my styler - I comb it through, and so on. Then I do one final scrunch after my spray gel. I don't seem to lose many clumps with all the combing. I picked up using a fine tooth comb from the SS method and that does help keep my clumpies going, but I find the full on SS method doesn't help the wet frizz. I have those spider hairs when it is literally dripping, soaking wet, and all SS does is rinse out the products I just put in. Those stray hairs will NOT lay with their neighboring curls for anything

ETA - those wet frizz pics were taken after I'd added in all my products and done my combing/scrunching routine. But that's what it looks like "naked" wet too... actually looks a bit worse.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:38 PM   #5
 
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That is my exact problem..the bane of my hair existence!! I don't have the answer either. I notice that I get a lot less of it if I have the time to do a Spritz & Condish before washing (which isn't often enough) and let my hair air dry. I get more the more I scrunch and if I diffuse. But the tradeoff is then that my roots are flatter
BRHG does seem to help a lot for me, along with LI in the winter only.
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I seriously don't think it looks that bad!! I know that's probably not what you wanted to hear, but that's my honest opinion. I get the same thing as you, like I've mentioned before, but I sometimes get it a LOT worse. I think that sometimes little things that we notice and hate don't bother other people...like this! I think it looks totally fine. Did you try the sealing?
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:07 PM   #7
 
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Those times when it looks extra crazy or I really need to look nice and they are not cooperating, I smooth those frizzies down with Tigi Bedhead Manipulator, which is not CG but really does the trick.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:00 AM   #8
 
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I seriously don't think it looks that bad!! I know that's probably not what you wanted to hear, but that's my honest opinion. I get the same thing as you, like I've mentioned before, but I sometimes get it a LOT worse. I think that sometimes little things that we notice and hate don't bother other people...like this! I think it looks totally fine. Did you try the sealing?
What kind of oil should i go for with this sealing experiment?


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Old 01-01-2013, 04:35 PM   #9
 
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Did you ever find a way to control your spider frizz lcl0706? Anyone else?
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:06 AM   #10
 
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haha i didn't know hair could look better than that. i thought a few hairs sticking out was just something i had to live with.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:20 AM   #11
 
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Eecen - I don't seem to have the problem anymore, but I could not tell u why honestly. Just maybe my hair's in better shape, 9 months after my OP. I definitely think now that the moisture-protein balance is the #1 influence on how your hair will turn out on any given day. Sorry I don't have the magic answer!
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