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Old 05-09-2012, 10:31 PM   #21
 
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Default Update- 4.5 weeks CG

So....
I've basically not washed my hair for 4.5 weeks Once a week I've used a sulfate-free shampoo (scalp only, tiny amount); otherwise it's co-wash only.

I have some interesting observations about my hair:


My curls for the most part are looking pretty good right?

Then:

The front right side of my head is a frizzy mess, none of those nice fat curls.

As compared to the left side:

The right side just seems very thin and different. I notice this every day when I style.

Overall pleased, however
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:58 PM   #22
 
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Maybe try switching up where you part your hair?
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:07 PM   #23
 
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Maybe try switching up where you part your hair?
That's the weird thing... I part my hair on the LEFT side so there's much more to the right. When I part it on the right, it gets worse.

A year ago I had a brazillian blowout and the front right side was always awful in styling- limp and shapeless. This probably isn't a new issue. I will try something different I guess (more or different product? curling iron? velcro rollers?) I'll do some experimenting.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:21 AM   #24
 
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Maybe the right side of your hair needs more protein? I notice you have fine and porous hair, so.....
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:00 PM   #25
 
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Maybe the right side of your hair needs more protein? I notice you have fine and porous hair, so.....
I did a protein treatment on the right front side of my hair.

I think it helped some.
Before Protein:


After Protein:




In general my hair was puffier with bigger curls today, not sure what changed because humidity didn't get above 15% today and I measured out my product as I always do.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:12 PM   #26
 
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If the protein was the only change to your routine, I'd say stick with it - there is definitely a noticeable difference. Also, what else are you doing in your routine? Since your hair is fine, I'm just wondering if the condish you have is too heavy, or if it's possible you are over conditioning. I know from personal experience how difficult it can be to find the right balance of moisture. Oh, and how long did you say you've been CG? It took my hair several weeks to adjust to the no poo/low poo and no silicone routine, so maybe your hair is still in this adjustment phase.

By the way, your curls are beautiful - especially in that last pic. So shiny and healthy looking!

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Old 05-12-2012, 01:33 PM   #27
 
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Your hair reminds me a lot of mine!! I would definitely stick with the protein treatments (and do them on your whole head of hair). They have helped me immensely. At first it was kind of hard to notice if there was a huge effect, but I knew my hair at least didn't hate it. Now, several months later after doing a PT every 1-2 weeks, wow, what a difference. My curl pattern is tighter than it used to be (2c instead of 2b), and - much more importantly to me - holds better through the day. My hair is happier and shinier and healthier. Are you doing IAgirl's gelatin PT? It is inexpensive and easy, and therefore easy to stick with for the long run.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:05 PM   #28
 
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Thanks everyone, for your kind words

I haven't tried the IAgirl protein treatment... I am hesitant to apply anything homemade with gelatin to my hair, for three reasons:

  1. I have extremely porous hair. I can't go in a fast food restaurant for longer than 3-4 minutes without my hair smelling like the place (as in, hours later people will say, "does someone here have Taco Bell? I swear I smell it"). Same with cooking- I can't cook anything unless I don't mind smelling like it. I fear the effects of a homemade concoction.
  2. I had a friend in high school who was on a synchronized swimming team and once used gelatin to hold the water hairstyle (that's the standard I think for synchro teams...). She had to cut her hair off because it never softened back up.

That being said, I'm probably just being paranoid
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:29 AM   #29
 
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Default UPDATE- 5 months CG

So it's finally time to update I guess




So, things that have transpired:
1. I switched to Deva Curl products 2 months ago... and really tried to get them to work. I found they really made my hair dry and frizzy. It was advised to me that it sometimes takes weeks for a product to really work to it's full potential... well as of today I am back to Bumble/Bumble curl creme.
2. My hair has grown... maybe 1 inch I don't understand the lack of growth. I have not even had it trimmed.
3. I found myself using a sulfate free shampoo more often with the Deva Curl products. The "no poo" deva curl product didn't seem to get my hair clean at all, it always looked dull and frizzy.

So we'll see where things go with going back to B/B creme!
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:46 AM   #30
 
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Your hair looks fabulous- huge difference from earlier pics. You have to just do what works for you- some people like Deva products and some people don't.
As far as the length, do you notice breakage or are your ends damaged? Or is it just really slow growth? Some people just find that they can't get their hair to grow past a certain length (if you can locate it- it's a much older post so it would be back a number of pages- Pedaheh started a thread about seeing if she could get additional length).

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Old 09-15-2012, 12:33 AM   #31
 
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I think that you are not noticing growth b/c your hair is a lot curlier than when you started. If you measured stretched out length, you'd probably notice a bigger difference!

You're hair looks beautiful!
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:14 AM   #32
 
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Half an inch a month is considered "average" for hair growth. You might be able to get faster growth with some products, or supplements. Of course if your hair was growing straight down rather than across a wave or around in a curl, half an inch would look longer.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:33 PM   #33
 
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It probably is at least partially due to the increase in curl.

I have a small chunk of hair that is dyed a different color (on the underside) that my stylist uses to measure growth because he was concerned that it never seemed to change when I'd go in for color or highlights. We've calculated it grows about 1/4 of an inch each month. I just get frustrated- I'm growing it out from a pixie cut in March 2007. Yes that's 5.5 years. It was the longest lasting pixie cut ever (and I have the most misshapen head in the Western hemisphere but that's a whole other topic.)

(I even tested myself for vitamin deficiencies/protein malnutrition... which of course were fine).

I appreciate everyone's thoughts and comments.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:32 PM   #34
 
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Default WEIRD hair day

THIS is what happened today:



Scroll up and compare to a few days ago. ???? I accidentally styled very differently today.


There's a rather complicated method that caused these odd curls. Not sure what I think- certainly is different!

A comparison:
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:53 AM   #35
 
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would really like to know what ya did. cause i would love if my hair did this. Cause i've got a lot of hair. lol.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:05 AM   #36
 
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I think it looks lovely, I'd really like to know how you've styled it!

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Old 09-22-2012, 09:48 AM   #37
 
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Default Here is WHAT I did:

1. After showering/co-washing, I accidentally towel-blotted my hair TOO much- put products (Deva leave in conditioner and B/B curl creme) in, but realized my hair was WAY too dry to salvage any curl.
2. Re-wet my hair under the shower hand tool (soaked it, totally sopping wet) and then scrunched out the excess water
3. Afraid to use the towel again so I briefly blow-dried, upside down, for a few minutes to get the excess out.

FYI I could NOT reproduce this yesterday. It turned into a disastrous tangled mass of messiness that had to be clipped up. I will try again today

EDIT: Today...


Not quite the clumps I was going for but I'll keep trying. I now have a better understanding of how to get them. (I sometimes think if my hair were darker, the curls would look nicer and frizz would not be so obvious)
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:08 AM   #38
 
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Sounds a little similar to the super soaker method.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:34 PM   #39
 
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Sounds a little similar to the super soaker method.

Yes, now that I've read about that method, it is quite similar. Someone messaged me and told me that my method was almost the "IceQueen" method.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:05 AM   #40
 
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Thanks for the description, CurlMD!

I did something similar recently: got my hair a bit too dry before I realized I forgot my honey rinse. So I put some honey in an empty shampoo bottle and filled it up with water, then poured it over my hair and squish-scrunched the water out.
I got great clumps that way.
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