Where to find product recs..and maybe a hair twin :)

I'm new to NC. I've been doing some reading and I think I've figured the following out about my hair:

2c/3a/m/iii (barely)/ normal porosity/ normal-high elasticity

I have no idea how to go about finding the right products, though. I'm *very* low maintenance. I usually just wash and condition with whatever is in my shower (right now its suave professionals aloe + Shea butter) and..that's it. I just let it air dry. It ends up looking like this or similar (sometimes it has more defined curls in the front)..

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Sometimes I put some Nutiva coconut oil in it if I think it's going to be a frizzy day.

Ideally I would like to find an equally simply routine. I would love to be able to co-wash only with the right conditioner and continue to just let air dry but idk if that'll work lol.

Anyway, what ingredients/types of product should I be looking for?


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Fine - dense - normal porosity - normal elasticity - BSL - dye free - 2cish


Loving AIA coconut cowash, goats milk soap bars, GVP conditioning balm, KCKT, Marie Dean styling creams, LALSG, coconut oil, SM milk

Thanks in advance to any replies, btw. I'm going to continue looking at signatures when I can but I can't see them at the moment.


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Fine - dense - normal porosity - normal elasticity - BSL - dye free - 2cish


Loving AIA coconut cowash, goats milk soap bars, GVP conditioning balm, KCKT, Marie Dean styling creams, LALSG, coconut oil, SM milk

I have no idea how to go about finding the right products, though. I'm *very* low maintenance. I usually just wash and condition with whatever is in my shower (right now its suave professionals aloe + Shea butter) and..that's it. I just let it air dry. It ends up looking like this or similar (sometimes it has more defined curls in the front)..
Originally Posted by Aktmama
Can I ask, what isn't working for you right now? What do you want from your hair, that you're not getting right now? (Frizzies driving you crazy? Too limp? Too much breakage? Too much curl? Not enough curl? )

If what you're doing is working for you, I'd stick with it. But if you want something else, I'm sure we can point you in a direction

(By the way, my questions were just general. In no way do I think, after seeing your picture, that frizzies, limpness, breakage, etc, are your specific problem )

Hair: Very fine, normal porous (Finally! Yay!), normal elasticity, loves high dew points.
Daily: Nature's Gate Tea Tree shampoo, GVP CB, Cure Care conditioner, aloe vera gel, Jessicurls products, Spiral Solutions products.
Monthly: Henna
As needed: John Masters Organics Sea Mist
HG Product: BioSilk Rock Hard Gelee (aka BRHG. It even has HG in the name!)
Last perm: 12/10/10
CG since: 3/9/12
Last haircut: 4/17/12
Gossamer Fringe (my blog)
I'd like for my curls to be more defined and for my hair to have more..life I never look at the ingredients in the shampoos i buy but I'm pretty sure theyre not friendly. Sometimes my "routine" works fine (as in, I don't look awful and can avoid a ponytail) but other days..not so much. Not sure what the determining factors are as I've never paid much attention lol.

I used to straighten my bleached hair every day. I decided to go natural (mostly because I was tired of the upkeep) about 2 years ago. Now that my hair is undyed and hasn't had any heat in awhile, my curls/waves actually look like..curls and waves as opposed to the big frizzy poof that they used to be if i didnt straighten it. I guess I'd just like to enhance what I've got. Help it reach it's full potential.


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Fine - dense - normal porosity - normal elasticity - BSL - dye free - 2cish


Loving AIA coconut cowash, goats milk soap bars, GVP conditioning balm, KCKT, Marie Dean styling creams, LALSG, coconut oil, SM milk

Cutting the frizz is a bonus, too. It's not always there but when it is, it's bad.


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Fine - dense - normal porosity - normal elasticity - BSL - dye free - 2cish


Loving AIA coconut cowash, goats milk soap bars, GVP conditioning balm, KCKT, Marie Dean styling creams, LALSG, coconut oil, SM milk

We have similar properties and patterns, but I can never, ever, EVER go "au naturale" with my hair without it being a ridiculous mess (probably similar to how your hair was when you first stopped straightening it), so I am extremely jealous. Because of that, I feel the need to low-poo my hair once a week. But I suppose if you want to stick with a strictly co-wash routine (I am assuming no weekly PT and/or DT), you would want to find something that has some protein in it as well as moisturizing ingredients....unless you are protein sensitive? My hair loves protein so it's in pretty much everything I use. I guess if I had to narrow my shower products down to one conditioner, I would go with Nature's Gate. You would need to check the ingredients though because not all have protein - only 99% of them lol.
Would you be open to gel? Very, very few curlies can even go w/o using any product after showering!

Your hair looks like it could use a little TLC. I know you want it simple but I would try to do a protein treatment followed by a deep treatment. You could buy one from a store or make your own. If you search for IAgirl protein recipe it will pop up.

Are you still brushing your hair?

Oh and for product recs:
-cowash: Suave Naturals, V05, Tresemme Naturals
-rinse out conditioner (usually more moisturizing): Tresemme Naturals, GVP conditioning balm (if you have a Sally's), Yes to Carrots/Cucumbers, Renpure Organics Argan or Keratin
-gel: LA Looks Sports, Ecostyler Krystal, BRHG, Got2B Spiked Up, Aussie Instant Freeze
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: CJ Beauticurls, CJ A&OO, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: Mop C, KCCC, SCE FSG
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

Thanks I'm open to gel (as long as i can avoid that crunchy feeling?). I used to use mousse. As long as I'm not spending an hour blow drying my hair or something, I'm okay with putting in a little product and going.


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Fine - dense - normal porosity - normal elasticity - BSL - dye free - 2cish


Loving AIA coconut cowash, goats milk soap bars, GVP conditioning balm, KCKT, Marie Dean styling creams, LALSG, coconut oil, SM milk

I feel like a curl cream or something is the most up your alley. I'm the same way -- I just want to be able to put product in and GO. Haha. I love L'Oreal Humidity Defying Leave-In Creme, TIGI Control Freak (a biiiit expensive) and SheaMoisture Curl Smoothie. They all give me hold, shine, softness and pretty curl formation without being sticky or crunchy. With gel, if it gets crunchy you CAN scrunch out the crunch with some oil and end up with similar results -- but for me personally gel makes my hair take too long to dry. So. But hey, maybe gel will be great for you! I recommend trying out a gel, a mousse and a curl cream to see which one your hair likes best and what best fits your ideal routine.

Also! I definitely recommend either trying co-washing or switching to a sulfate-free/gentle shampoo. And finding a good conditioner. I feel like those things are really what changed my hair for the best.
whurly girly (2C/3A).
thick; medium/coarse; low porosity.
hair that is drier than the sahara desert.

LOW-POO: Renpure Organics
CO: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: Renpure Keratin Conditioner. New HG!
LI: L'Oreal EverSleek Humidity-Defying LI Creme
Styling: SM Curl Milk, Argan Oil for sealing, sometimes GFPC Gel, some honey for hold, TIGI Control Freak Serum!!
lol I definitely don't spend an hr blow drying my hair! I don't even diffuse my hair because I'm usually in a time crunch.

When your hair is dry (and crunchy) you can SOTC (scrunch out the crunch) with an oil or just your hands.
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: CJ Beauticurls, CJ A&OO, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: Mop C, KCCC, SCE FSG
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

Awesome. Thanks so much everyone!

Oh, no, I don't brush my hair. I literally just get out of the shower, make sure my hair is falling in the right places (I just run my fingers through it to do that) and go.


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Fine - dense - normal porosity - normal elasticity - BSL - dye free - 2cish


Loving AIA coconut cowash, goats milk soap bars, GVP conditioning balm, KCKT, Marie Dean styling creams, LALSG, coconut oil, SM milk

Oh, if in going to buy a treatment instead of making one, what are some good ones to look at?

And does anyone use Avalon Organics?


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Loving AIA coconut cowash, goats milk soap bars, GVP conditioning balm, KCKT, Marie Dean styling creams, LALSG, coconut oil, SM milk

From Sally's Beauty you can get Ion effective care (small packet trial size) to test out a decent dose of protein for your hair.
I wanted to be gel-free, but my fine hair is flyaway and as I tried gels and learned to scrunch out the crunch - I was hooked. More "natural" gels like Garnier Fructis Pure Clean or flaxseed gels (Jessicurl is a commercial brand) don't have that crunchy, plastic feeling. Neither do things like the Spiral Solutions or Uncle Funky's Daughter curl enhancers or Donna Marie Curl Enhancing gel or jelly or whatever it's called - judging from the ingredients. Kiss My Face Upper Management gives really great results for some people - but it doesn't have a lot of hold. If you don't want a lot of hold, it might be good too.

It's one more step - scrunch in the gel after you shower. But that's it. I diffuse mine for about 5 minutes to set in the waves - but that's where I draw the line. Steph's curl cream suggestions sound really good for somebody like you. I'm just throwing more at you.
Have fun!
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I know there are a couple drugstore ones like Nexxus Emergencee and Joico K-Pak (has mineral oil which could bother some) but I use Curl Junkie Repair Me. You can buy it online from curlmart.com, aveyou.com and the CJ site itself. It is moisturizing as well so I don't necessarily need to follow it w/ a deep treatment.

I haven't tried the drugstore ones myself but you can search the forums and see what the general consensus is about them!

I tried an AO shampoo (tea tree oil?) and hated it. Stripped my hair and made it feel nasty.
Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

rinse out: CJ Beauticurls, CJ A&OO, CJ Smoothing

jellies/creams: Mop C, KCCC, SCE FSG
gels: CJ CQ, BRHG

I think the above recommendations are great! Nexxus Emergencee was too much protein for my hair, but Ion effective care was great. I found that after I switched to sulfate free shampoos and limited the silicones in stylers that my hair had tighter curls. I used to use a shampoo and conditioner every other day, scrunch in a light gel and go. I still shampoo about 3 times a week, but with the gentler products that don't have sulfates. I also stopped using stylers that had silicones that weren't water soluble. When I did that, I found out how dry my hair really was and started adding moisture, moisture, moisture.
Products recs: Poos: Giovanni 50/50 is a great all around poo and available at Target and Walgreens. Shea Moisture also has a couple of great poos you can also find at Target or Walgreens. Cond: Tresseme Naturals Moisturizing and VO5 moisture milks are great ones to find almost everywhere. Curl Junkie Curl Rehab and Darcy's Botanicals Pumpkin are available on-line and wonderful! Stylers: Aubrey organics Mandarin Magic or B5 natural gel are both nice and have light hold, I also like to mix my Vo5 Moisture Milk with a gel or serum to make my own curl cream type product. Good luck!
3a, baby fine i/ii, low to normal porosity, protein sensitive
Mod CG since 5/12, from rainy Western WA
dislikes: glycerin, wheat protein
Likes: moisture, Mag Sulfate
Poo: Elucence Moisture Acidifying Shampoo
Cond: CJCR, VO5 Clarifying Conditioner
LI: JC WDT, CJ CR
Style: Loma Curvature Curvy Cream, True Polaris Protein Free Truly curly styling gel (Etsy), Sweet Curls flax seed defining gel (Etsy)
I'm using a conditioning cleanser, Wen or Hair One (although I know to some that is blasphemous). I use a little as leave in, use Herbal Essence curl boosting mousse, and nothing but curly sealer. Sometimes I squeeze some Wen texture balm into my hair that's a little crunchy. I diffuse too. Can't air dry because it never dries that way. My hair routine not counting washing takes like 15 minutes. I love it! I was drying and flat ironing for 45 minutes till I learned I could do this!
I just started using Loreal Paris EverCurl hydracharge leave in cream. It has the a- cone in it, but it is a great light styler and moisturizer! I use a light gel or jelly on top, but it has almost enough hold for me without it. I usually have to low poo 2-3 times per week to avoid buildup on my fine hair. I also found that if I use a rinse out conditioner with Keratin protein that my curls bounce back quite nicely. I use One & Only Argan Oil Hydrating Mask 4 or 5 Times a week as a rinse out. I can' t use most types of protein and I usually avoid them altogether in any product that I leave in my hair. good luck, I know the trial and error periodical seems like it lasts forever!
3a, baby fine i/ii, low to normal porosity, protein sensitive
Mod CG since 5/12, from rainy Western WA
dislikes: glycerin, wheat protein
Likes: moisture, Mag Sulfate
Poo: Elucence Moisture Acidifying Shampoo
Cond: CJCR, VO5 Clarifying Conditioner
LI: JC WDT, CJ CR
Style: Loma Curvature Curvy Cream, True Polaris Protein Free Truly curly styling gel (Etsy), Sweet Curls flax seed defining gel (Etsy)

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