Accidently used a cone :(

txwvy32 · 10-01-2012, 02:46 PM

I got all happy at the store because I looked at the ingredient list of a curl creme called SAMMY, it's in a yellow bottle, got it at Target. I used it, got GREAT results with tons less frizz and then i'm re-reading the bottle to see what magic ingredient it could've been only to find "Amodimethicone"

SO sad! What do I do? Do I need to use a sulfate shampoo to get it out? I'm confused on the boards because some people say it's water soluable, others say its not, others say it is but only in the bottle (whatever that means.) Obviously not CG friendly so I just threw that money down the drain, at least it was cheap lol!

Ml001 · 10-01-2012, 02:58 PM

Funny, I was just reading about this a day or two ago, and I don't even remember why but I was lol. http://www.tightlycurly.com/ingredients/amodimethicone

From what I saw, this seems to be the general consensus. Alone it is not water soluble but with these other things it is.

Personally, I would not choose to use it long term even with the 'magic mix' of ingredients present. However, after just one use, I would probably not worry much about it. You could do a clarifying wash if you wanted to be sure - I like using just BS/ACV for that.

Ml001 · 10-01-2012, 03:01 PM

Btw, I did the same thing with a SULFATE once. I read the ingredients list over and over before -- and after -- purchase. Was having issues again (I react to sulfates) and noticed a comment online that it was not sulfate free. I was like 'huh?' And sure enough, I looked at the ingredients list (yet again) and sure enough it had a sulfate. Stopped using it immediately. Good grief! So don't feel bad that you missed that cone lol!

txwvy32 · 10-01-2012, 03:02 PM

I have a Suave daily clarifying shampoo, think that would work? I'm scared of using baking soda because of my low porosity hair and it's prone to be dry. Thanks for the info!

HairObsessed · 10-01-2012, 05:25 PM

Honestly, amodimethicone doesn't phase me at all. It's in my low poo. It's in one of my detangling spray. It doesn't seem to build-up at all. And my low poo has ingredients to remove it.

Any low poo with cocamidopropyl betaine or cocobetaine should remove amodimethicone.

Here's an article on amodimethicone: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlre...liconeshttp://

And article on what will remove specific 'cones from your hair:
What's the Scoop on Silicones?

Otherwise, yes, your Suave shampoo should remove that 'cone without any problems.

Hope this helps!

Ml001 · 10-01-2012, 05:37 PM

I have low-po hair and BS works fine for occasional use (followed by ACV!). About a tbsp in a cup or of water. But yeah, I agree with other poster...suave should work fine, too. =)

Amazinnatural · 10-01-2012, 05:40 PM

Who knew being "CG" was soooo serious! lol

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itsKelCeeEee · 10-01-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazinnatural

Who knew being "CG" was soooo serious! lol

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Lmao.

asianrunner · 10-01-2012, 05:51 PM

Don't worry too much about it! I'd say if it works for you then continue to use it. Just make sure you stay on top if your hair starts to look/feel worse and make sure to low poo fairly regularly.

I think people spend a lot of time and money looking for that "magic" product. I don't use cones but I know there are others on this board that do!

txwvy32 · 10-01-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazinnatural

Who knew being "CG" was soooo serious! lol

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lol yeah I know but i'm really trying to start on the "right foot" so to speak. I'm only five weeks in and don't want to mess up at this point. I'm not ready to start experimenting with silicones in stylers yet.

Geek_Chic · 10-01-2012, 08:36 PM

LCLF had some good info. on amodimethicone in a "short and sweet" sort of format.

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A note about amodimethicone: if you do an Internet search on amodimethicone, you will find quite a few sites that list amodimethicone as a silicone that is "slightly" soluble in water as long as two additional ingredients are included in the formulation:

Amodimethicone (and) Trideceth-12 (and) Cetrimonium Chloride (as a mixture in the bottle)

The assumption has always been that the inclusion of Trideceth-12 (a nonionic surfactant) and cetrimonium chloride (a cationic surfactant) render the amodimethicone, non-water soluble on its own, slightly soluble in water and it could be considered okay to use. Turns out that has been a completely incorrect assumption. What the Trideceth-12 and cetrimonium chloride do is render the amodimethicone dispersible in water. Once the amodimethicone is deposited onto the hair shaft and dries to a film, however, it is not water-soluble, will prevent moisture from getting into the hair shaft and will require a surfactant to remove.

Dispersible in water just means it disperses (mixes) with the water (and thus with water based products in the bottle) instead of separating from it (like an oil would).

I think it was the CurlChemist who said a-cone only deposits one layer, then repels further deposits, and targets damaged areas. Given that, while I generally avoid non-water soluble cones, if a product I loved had a-cone it it, it wouldn't necessarily be a dealbreaker for me, especially since I have a low poo I love.