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melaroo 10-09-2012 03:25 AM

Frizz!! Please help!
 
I am not sure on the curl type that I have but it has S waves on top and ringlets underneath. It takes an age to dry and is damaged from colouring so does that mean it is porous? It is quite brittle and breaks easily and is fine and flyaway.

Anyway, I am sooooo fed up of the constant frizz battle! It is has a halo of frizz (random individual very curly hair strands sticking out from my head) especially at the top where my hair is more straight.

I co-wash with Tresemme naturals and leave some in. I squeeze with a T shirt and then use Deva curl conditioning gel. I then diffuse using the pixie whatsit method until it is almost dry. I leave it alone then until it is bone dry and then sotc. The frizz starts to appear even when my hair is wet. I can't get nice 2nd day hair as the frizz is just awful and if I use a lavander water spray it makes it worse.

I am in the UK so if anyone recommends any products etc it would be fab if they are available in the UK.

I hope someone can help as I'm soooo fed up with it :-(

Thanks

Ml001 10-09-2012 04:33 AM

Taking forever to dry indicates low porosity. Chemically treating hair can alter the porosity...but doesn't automatically mean high porosity. Does your hair seem to take a while to get wet? Do some products (oil, for example) tend to just sit on your hair? Run your fingers up a strand - is it smooth? Do a float test - place hair in a cup of room temperature water, does it float? That all also indicates low porosity.

A very good answer regarding frizz is here: http://m.naturallycurly.com/curltalk...d.php?t=150544

Good luck.

txwvy32 10-09-2012 12:10 PM

I struggle with the exact same problem. You said UK right? It's very wet over there? I'm thinking the majority of your problem is probably the wet air so getting something for your hair to battle humid conditions would be a start. I personally stay away from products with glycerin and it seems to help a lot. Vegetable glycerin is ok for some reason on my hair, but glycerin in general... I skip it. Also i've been doing Agave Nectar rinses (my hair is long and thick so I use 2tsp. to 2 cups water) as my final rinse and it's been keeping my frizz down also. I don't rinse it out, I just scrunch it in my hair gently and leave it in. I live in Texas and near the gulf so it's humid here a lot, with dew points in the upper 60's. Now that the season in changing (which might be the case where you are now) my hair is doing much better with the frizz without a lot of work due to the lower dew points in the 54 range. Hope I didn't confuse you too much, those are things that I do. The curl predictor tool works great for telling you the type of products you need to seek out for your area and hair type. ^_^

HairObsessed 10-09-2012 09:47 PM

You didn't mention if you use a low poo or anything to clarify your hair. If this is a more recent thing, it could be due to buildup on your hair.

melaroo 10-10-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ml001 (Post 2048521)
Taking forever to dry indicates low porosity. Chemically treating hair can alter the porosity...but doesn't automatically mean high porosity. Does your hair seem to take a while to get wet? Do some products (oil, for example) tend to just sit on your hair? Run your fingers up a strand - is it smooth? Do a float test - place hair in a cup of room temperature water, does it float? That all also indicates low porosity.

A very good answer regarding frizz is here: Help! Dry, frizzy hair. What could it be? - CurlTalk

Good luck.

Thanks. My hair absorbs water and product easily but over time I do seem to get a build up despite using CG friendly products. Thanks for the link, it makes me wonder if it is buildup. shampoo'd my hair this morning for the first time in months (using one with low sulphates as I had no sulphate free in!) and the frizz is less around my parting now (although still in abundance everywhere else, thankfully no worse though.

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Originally Posted by txwvy32 (Post 2048710)
I struggle with the exact same problem. You said UK right? It's very wet over there? I'm thinking the majority of your problem is probably the wet air so getting something for your hair to battle humid conditions would be a start. I personally stay away from products with glycerin and it seems to help a lot. Vegetable glycerin is ok for some reason on my hair, but glycerin in general... I skip it. Also i've been doing Agave Nectar rinses (my hair is long and thick so I use 2tsp. to 2 cups water) as my final rinse and it's been keeping my frizz down also. I don't rinse it out, I just scrunch it in my hair gently and leave it in. I live in Texas and near the gulf so it's humid here a lot, with dew points in the upper 60's. Now that the season in changing (which might be the case where you are now) my hair is doing much better with the frizz without a lot of work due to the lower dew points in the 54 range. Hope I didn't confuse you too much, those are things that I do. The curl predictor tool works great for telling you the type of products you need to seek out for your area and hair type. ^_^

Thanks for the tips. Yes it is very wet over here, especially at the moment. I wonder if that is something to do with it. I don't understand about dew points, is there an idiots guide somewhere?:hiding:where do I find the curl predictor tool?

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Originally Posted by HairObsessed (Post 2049096)
You didn't mention if you use a low poo or anything to clarify your hair. If this is a more recent thing, it could be due to buildup on your hair.

I was just cowashing with tresemme naturals. I shampoo'd this morning as I said above, for the first time in ages. I might get some bodyshop rainforest shampoo to try. My hair seem less curly since shampooing it though, but I did use a sulphate one.

Knotty_Maddy 10-21-2012 01:33 PM

if you check out Waterlily716's youtube vids, she has tons of info on curly hair and her most recent thing is dewpoint and how to figure it out. Here is her youtube vid on dewpoint/season changes: Curly Care: Summer to Winter Hair Care and Dew Points - YouTube

Your hair sounds like mine, I have very fine 2B/C hair, but lots of it. I coloured my hair once, last month, and the frizz is killing me! lol! But I am also discovering (found this out while using Devacurl products) that my hair really hates protein, so I think it is important for you to figure out your hair type first as another poster here suggested...I did the hair float test and others, and my hair, though fine, is actually low-porosity and therefore a little coarse. Takes forever to dry if I don't use my diffuser. So I am finding the best thing for my hair is a coconut oil DT once a week, and then just protein-free products along with less glycerin and hair is better, calming down a bit.

You just have to keep experimenting with different products and techniques, as frustrating as that sounds! ;p what works for one person may not work for you...but knowing what kind of hair you have will really, really help :) Good luck!


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