i hate curl creams!

i used to use curl creams before i started the CG method and i liked them a lot. so when i went looking for products in the beginning, i purchased a couple that are supposed to be really good: AG re:coil and CJ CCCCL. ugh! they just feel terrible in my hair. the results actually look nice, but i don't know if i can deal with the soft coated feeling my hair gets. can anyone relate? any recommendations? the re:coil doesn't feel AS bad in my hair as the CCCCL. i've tried them in different dew points, but still not feeling them.
2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF
How much are you using? I love CCCCL but a quarter sized amount is more than enough for me.
2a/b
medium/thick
high porosity (from coloring)

Shampoo: Mop Top Gentle Shampoo
Co-wash: Chistophe Robin Lemon Cleansing Cream
RO: CJ strengthening, Kenra moisturizing
LI: Jessicurl Aloeba
DT: CJ rehab, Christophe Robin Prickly Pear Mask
PT: SS protein treatment, Ouidad 12 minute
Stylers: Jessicurl RR, SS Firm Hold Gel
Oils: caudalie, sweet almond
I don't like Re:Coil either. It's super sticky, and it seems to dry out my hair so much all it can do is frizz.

Have you tried using a mousse? A lot of people here with "type 2" curls love to use mousse for hold and moisture because it has such a light texture.

Maybe a gel-cream like Biotera Curl Cream would feel better in your hair than more lotion-like products.

What curl creams did you use before CG?
3b/c, Coarse, Low Porosity, Desert Climate
CG since August 2011/Occasionally Modified since 2013
Favorites:KCKT/KCCC/CHS Curl Keeper/Camille Rose Curl Maker/
ORS Curls Unleased Second ChanceRefresher/
It's a 10 Leave-in/BRHG/
Jane Carter Nourish & Shine butter/
Ouidad Double-Detangler Comb
They both have polyquats! ReCoil 55 and 10, CCCC-lite 10 and 7,

When I use polyquats (4, 7 and/or 10), I get frizz even when wet. I was told that I couldn't possibly have polyquat buildup, but I need to wash them out with a stronger surfactant to remove them.

Why don't you try using some curl creams that don't have the chemicals??
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
...I don't mean to hijack...but kathymack, do you think polyquats could be a culprit addresses here? What is WITH one section of my hair?
3b/c, Coarse, Low Porosity, Desert Climate
CG since August 2011/Occasionally Modified since 2013
Favorites:KCKT/KCCC/CHS Curl Keeper/Camille Rose Curl Maker/
ORS Curls Unleased Second ChanceRefresher/
It's a 10 Leave-in/BRHG/
Jane Carter Nourish & Shine butter/
Ouidad Double-Detangler Comb
How much are you using? I love CCCCL but a quarter sized amount is more than enough for me.
Originally Posted by seamelody14
+1 ... no matter how little I use, it's always plenty once I emulsify it in my hands. I have to be very careful not to overdo or my hair is flat and limp.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace. - Jimi
2c/3a, BSL, medium, low porosity
Low-poo: Bobeam and CV poo bars; Acure Argan Oil & Stem Cell
Conditioner: Acure Argan Oil & Stem Cell; Desert Essence Shea
Stylers: Sweet Curls Elixir Curl Cream; SM CES
PT: BASK Whiskey Soak
I was having the same problem. Before CG I loved my curl cremes, but lately the ones i've tried are just sticky or make my hair frizz. Last week though I tried Organix Curl creme with argon oil...omg I LOVE this stuff! I prefer curl cremes only because I don't like to use gel, or a lot of gel. Sometimes I can use a nice mousse like Pantene curly moisturizing whip that's got a good hold but doesn't feel like it does, feels like you didn't put anything in your hair, totally natural feeling.
2(I have no idea what pattern), low porosity, mix of medium and coarse, dense

*Have just discovered the amazingness that is the "Spritz and Condish" routine*

Shampoo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo
Co-wash: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying Conditioner
RO: GVP CB, Garnier Triple Nutrition
LI : Whatever conditioner I used + EVOO or Argon oil
Stylers: Organix Moroccan Curling Perfection Defining Creme, EcoStyler Gel (krystal)
...I don't mean to hijack...but kathymack, do you think polyquats could be a culprit addresses here? What is WITH one section of my hair?
Originally Posted by gardencurls
They could. Try clarifying and staying away from chemicals, especially polyquats!
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I used to use curly sexy hair, John freida secret weapon, and bumble and bumble. I've also tried MD lemon yogurt smoothie with a similar result post cg. It seems like my hair doesn't love moisturizing products. My hair analysis came back with medium porosity,but I'm wondering if I'm really low porosity after these results.
2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF
Sorry similar results with the MD meaning coated feeling and limp hair.
2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF
I used to use curly sexy hair, John freida secret weapon, and bumble and bumble. I've also tried MD lemon yogurt smoothie with a similar result post cg. It seems like my hair doesn't love moisturizing products. My hair analysis came back with medium porosity,but I'm wondering if I'm really low porosity after these results.
Originally Posted by elizard
Why do you think this means you're low porosity?? I'm low porosity. When I first discovered the MD products, I used one 5 or 6 times a week for styling with no coated feeling. I use any of the richer products in minute amounts (my hair density has diminished with age, thyroid and a medication I take.)

Next thought--are you using too much product?? It can take my hair hours to absorb product after it dries. It keeps getting better through out the day.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I thought it meant low porosity because the product wasn't penetrating and just sitting on top. Maybe I am using too much product. I've been using like a quarter sized dollop of ccccl on each side of my head for my longer than shoulder length hair. Less of course for the MD.

I have really good results with Kccc, ufdcm, and ckcj. Yay for curl mart carrying ck products!
2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF
I thought it meant low porosity because the product wasn't penetrating and just sitting on top. Maybe I am using too much product. I've been using like a quarter sized dollop of ccccl on each side of my head for my longer than shoulder length hair. Less of course for the MD.

I have really good results with Kccc, ufdcm, and ckcj. Yay for curl mart carrying ck products!
Originally Posted by elizard
If it's one product that isn't penetrating, it's not the low porosity--it's an ingredient. If it's all products that take a LONG time to absorb, it's low porosity.

The products you that are giving you good results are jelly products that don't contain chemicals. For me, they don't absorb in the same manner as a curl cream, they form a "cast" that provides hold and moisture.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams

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