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pearlycurl 11-07-2012 12:41 AM

Suggest good leave ins & to get 3a curls
 
Hi curlies,

M newbie.found this amazing site finally!!
I have mix of 2b 2a hair.I guess it's low porosity medium coarse hair.I just use hot oil treatment once a week and wash and condition once a week.I want to put some leave in conditioners the 3rd or 4th day,I tried cantu's Shea butter but somehow my hair doesn't like it.Please suggest me some affordable leave ins.
And also I want to get 3a curls from root to ends.I tried many heatless curling methods which dint work anyway.For example I tried snakebraid method all over my head which resulted in frizzy poofy(voluminous) undefined curls and some strands just poof up and frizz:(
Is there any method which solves this condition.Please help curlies.love all ur beautiful curls here!!!

Knotty_Maddy 11-07-2012 01:01 AM

Wow, it is hard to suggest something! Are you trying to achieve more curl, Pearly? Are you CG? Do you like silicone products or not? Do you know if you are protein friendly or not? Does your hair like heavier leave-ins? Oils, maybe? Or not? :) Please give us a little more to go one, you will get a few more suggestions.

Meanwhile all I can say is I am 2B/3A fine/medium/coarse and my hair likes Tigi Curlesque leave in and the Tigi Curlesque Curl Amplifying Creme. (the Amplifier works exactly like the AG Re:Coil but it has no protein and so no poofy ends/hair for me! Yay!) They are fairly reasonably priced, especially int he States. Expect to pay about $25 for both...hth!

pearlycurl 11-07-2012 01:11 AM

Thanks for the quick reply.Well m a newbie.I keep googling all round d forums and confused totally:(...I am unable to understand what's protein sensitive and the other protein term.M a wavy girl (got 2a and 2 b hair) .

Well I like more curls and ringlets like 2cs and 3as.So I used heatless curls which don't be soo good.can u pls explain me that 'protein' term?..m sorry ..I couldn't find it confusedddd!!

Knotty_Maddy 11-07-2012 01:26 AM

Look in the upper left hand corner of this menu above us, and pick "HAIR TYPES" and then go do some reading there, hon :) Hair type has a lot to do with what is a more successful product to use in your hair...

For an example, my hair is fine but also verging on coarse, and it hates protein ;p so I can't use any products with proteins in them, or it turns my hair into gummy straw! Once you determine what your hair type is, it is then easier to decide what products work well with it.

Also, if you are using CG method (co-washing with conditioner) you will want to avoid products that have too many silicones etc. In the Newbie column, at the very top, there are stickies with explanations for - well, for the acronyms people use here, as well as techniques (methods) to style the hair, and also there are links to "what's in your product" - i.e., what a protein or a silicone looks like on the ingredient list...also, what certain ingredients are and what they do.

You can go to this site: Welcome and look at the ingredient option on her menu at the left. She says what certain ingredients are. Also, I understand you can go to livecurlylivefree and get a hair assessment done, to see what type you are.

What you have to know right away is that everyone's hair is so unique...what works for one person may disagree completely with your hair! :) It takes a lot of experimentation/research to find what works. What you will find is that it does matter what type of water you have (hard or soft) what type your hair is, and what techniques you use to take care of it. And everyone here uses different techniques and products, depending on their hair and their preferences...

That's why it is hard for any one here to say, "I use this, you will love it!" ;p don't give up though - embrace it as an adventure, and keep trying ;) good luck!

ETA Here is the livecurly website: http://livecurlylivefree.com/home.htm

pearlycurl 11-07-2012 04:19 PM

thanks knotty-maddy a ton..:)
I read the hairtype here ..so guess m right about my hair..but not knowing whether it hates protein or loves it..I only use coconut oil once a week ,massage and rwash and rinse it...apply some curl defining cream and thats it..m happy on that day about my hair.
My second day waves are also not bad.without applying any products..but slowly on 3rd and 4th day..it gets little frizz and gets dry.I feel like applying some oil but it makes my hair greasy.So I dont use it..But recently I tried cantu's shea butter on 4th day hair.I applied on sligntly damp hair which make my hair fall badly ie my hair doesnt like mix of water with oil.So m unable to understand what shud be done to moisturize it on 3rd or 4th day too..
And in my country ppl just use coconut oil,etc to moisturize it.So I am not aware of all these things.I used to hate my hairstyle before since always braid or just pull some upper strands and bobby pin it to stop flyaways.But discovered this helpful site for curlies out there.And now since I have a toddler its little difficult for me to wash my hair often care routine after wash.

And really thanks for knotty-maddy..U were soo polite for newbies like me...:)

Knotty_Maddy 11-08-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pearlycurl (Post 2066517)
thanks knotty-maddy a ton..:)
I read the hairtype here ..so guess m right about my hair..but not knowing whether it hates protein or loves it..I only use coconut oil once a week ,massage and rwash and rinse it...apply some curl defining cream and thats it..m happy on that day about my hair.
My second day waves are also not bad.without applying any products..but slowly on 3rd and 4th day..it gets little frizz and gets dry.I feel like applying some oil but it makes my hair greasy.So I dont use it..But recently I tried cantu's shea butter on 4th day hair.I applied on sligntly damp hair which make my hair fall badly ie my hair doesnt like mix of water with oil.So m unable to understand what shud be done to moisturize it on 3rd or 4th day too..
And in my country ppl just use coconut oil,etc to moisturize it.So I am not aware of all these things.I used to hate my hairstyle before since always braid or just pull some upper strands and bobby pin it to stop flyaways.But discovered this helpful site for curlies out there.And now since I have a toddler its little difficult for me to wash my hair often care routine after wash.

And really thanks for knotty-maddy..U were soo polite for newbies like me...:)

Hon, I am a newbie too :) it's ok! I am just learning too!

Maybe your hair, personally, likes to be washed more often? Not everyone can go a week before washing again - I think it is pretty normal to feel kinda yucky by day 3 or 4 ;p Coconut oil does not have protein in it, but not all people with curly hair love it - your hair could respond well with coconut, or badly - My hair likes coconut but loves mineral oil, so you have to play around with all the oils. Some people prefer olive oil or shea...depends on your hair.

There are so many people here who know so much more about curly hair than me! So I hope someone else helps you too :) Meanwhile, what I do know is you have to have your hair analysed to see what type of hair you have, then follow the product recommendations for that...that much i have learned here, hair type is everything! After you know what type hair you have, it is easier to find the right products. And anyways a lot of this is just finding people here with the same hair type as you, and then trying what they use...eventually you will find what your hair likes or hates ;p I wish you luck, I am going through the same journey as you! I understand your frustration....I wish I could help you more. :) meanwhile good luck!

Roswenthe 11-08-2012 06:01 AM

I agree that you may need to start washing it at least twice a week. Maybe every 3 days.

I use coconut oil on my skin, but I have fine hair, and if I use it on my hair, it just gets stringy and gross. Instead of the oils, you might want to try co-washing, which is washing your hair with conditioner, and saving the hot oil treatments for once a month or so. I think heavy oils work better for those who either have straight hair or are curly 4s. The rest of us it just weighs our curls down a lot.

I am uncertain how long your hair is, but it sounds like you are expecting way more curl than is natural to your hair. It's okay to be a 2! I wish my hair were long enough for some of the pretty wavy styles I find online, like sock buns (makes perfect waves). Thicker braids can make some pretty waves. I also saw a tutorial where someone put a headband on, wrapped the hair around the headband, and slept on it. If you search Youtube for sock buns and headband curls, you find those.

pearlycurl 11-09-2012 03:42 PM

thanks rosewathe(m sorry if I spelled wrong..)..Yes I do agree that washing my hair twice a week is good for me.But I m afraid that my hair can dry if I do hot oil treatment just once a month.And I heard co-wash gives build-up on hair.So what co-wash conditioner can I use to avoid this.My hair hangs till my nipple.
Its low porosity coarse mix of 2a and 2b.Yes I saw so many pretty videos on youtube about getting more curls .But there are none like 3a frm crown like girls with those natural 3 curls.So I thought of perming my hair but afraid that I could damage the hair.Please suggest me about this..

Roswenthe 11-10-2012 05:32 AM

I've used Suave naturals conditioner. It doesn't have any silicones or parabens.

This page talks about co-washing and has a list of ingredients to look out for, since that might be easier in your country. It also has some other conditioner suggestions.

LadyPlymdale 11-10-2012 05:39 PM

I feel your pain, I really do.

When I started CG in May 2012, I was desperate to get my 2C hair to 3B, sadly it never happened & is probably not meant to.

Going CG helps make your hair so much healthier, but changing structural properties more than one level looser or curlier is almost impossible without heat & chemicals. As a 2C, I can comb my hair into 2B beach waves or add a curl enhancer & diffuse to 3A, but that's about it.

It has been said a lot, but hair properties (texture, porosity, density) are more important than curl type & making your hair healthier will unleash its full curl potential, whatever that may be.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to get a perm (or straighten) your hair, just go into it with eyes open about the damage your hair will sustain. If you are okay with that, go ahead.

For me, though, learning to accept my natural texture as it grows out of my head has been quite empowering.

Wavy hair often seems like the forgotten middle child between straight & curly, but it is an awesome category all of it's own.



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Knotty_Maddy 11-10-2012 05:54 PM

Waves are so beautiful! I wish my hair would wave...it is so Hollywood sexy :) think of all the glamorous '50's actresses... :) so pretty!

Robin-in-FL 11-10-2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pearlycurl (Post 2067644)
thanks rosewathe(m sorry if I spelled wrong..)..Yes I do agree that washing my hair twice a week is good for me.But I m afraid that my hair can dry if I do hot oil treatment just once a month.And I heard co-wash gives build-up on hair.So what co-wash conditioner can I use to avoid this.My hair hangs till my nipple.
Its low porosity coarse mix of 2a and 2b.Yes I saw so many pretty videos on youtube about getting more curls .But there are none like 3a frm crown like girls with those natural 3 curls.So I thought of perming my hair but afraid that I could damage the hair.Please suggest me about this..

My hair curls when I scrunch it...Put gel in my hands and push the hair up toward the head, squish it in my hands; but this only works if your hair is curly by its nature, I think.

What you are looking for is a set? A way to style it curly? If your hair is coarse and resistant and you are looking to wet set, it will work but you need to let it get all the way dry in the set. All The Way Dry. Use long curlers like "Curlformers", gel the hair and wrap the hair onto the rollers, then let it dry completely. Take it down and don't mess with it much. Or try the pillow rollers but start when your hair is almost dry, put mousse in the hair and wrap it, cover with satin cap and go to bed, when you wake up take it down and don't mess with it much.

Good luck! Try scrunching with gel first, your hair may be curlier than you think.

pearlycurl 11-13-2012 02:19 PM

thnks ladies..I found ur ideas good..sounds they work well on my hair..
But CG method involves lots of products in hair..specially for newbies like me,co-washing hair makes my hair fall badly .In postpartum nearly after 8 months my hair started to shed slowly..ie every time I wash it sheds badly..and imagine if I co-wash it doubles..So m worried to follow CG method.
Also do gels affect hair?..coz scrunching and applying gel made my hair frizzy and crispy.Is there any natural gel or some product to hold curls?
And I think CG works with only products in hair..right???!

pearlycurl 11-15-2012 03:14 PM

Please any suggestions or clues, girls?!!!


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