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Old 11-11-2012, 01:22 PM   #1
 
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Default Truly anti-humectant products?

So I live in Colorado, with really low dew points pretty much all year round. I am always trying to find products that are anti-humectant that don't have cones in them. Very hard to do!! Even glycerin free products tend to have a high amount of something else that is humectant like Sorbitol, Laureth-xx, etc. So has anyone out there found CG products that are truly anti-humectant?? Thanks!
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:46 PM   #2
 
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any type of oil will work.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:57 PM   #3
 
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any type of oil will work.
Yeah, I think oils are your only option if you are looking for CG anti-humectants. Every conditioner I can think of has glycerin or aloe vera or... something. That's what makes them moisturizing!
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:28 AM   #4
 
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I live in Colorado too and I've found that the best way to deal with the low dews is to seal with an oil. My styling products often still contain glycerin somewhere in the mix, or some other humectant. But I've found that as long as I'm using a lot of moisture and sealing with an oil, this is not an issue.

I like to use really thick, moisturizing rinse outs and let that sit on my hair for a few minutes in the shower (sort of a mini DT), and then use a lighter, but still moisturizing LI (too heavy and it weighs down my fine hair). My favorite LI's are As I AM, Curly Kinks and SM curl and style milk - these have a nice, lightweight/slippery consistency, but still pack a lot of punch in terms of moisture. I then seal the length of my hair with oil (either apricot kernal, sweet almond, or grapeseed - or EO conditioning serum, which is a blend of oils). Then I apply my styler - I like more natural jelly stylers (like KCCC, AIA curling jelly, SM souffle, CK coil jam, etc.), but some of these do contain glycerin, and most contain agave nectar. But they also provide good moisture, and as long as I moisturize and seal first, I still get soft, shiny curls with good frizz control.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:45 PM   #5
 
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Wyomingite here!! Three words that changed my hair: Flax Seed Gel! YouTube has a lot of recipes. It works for me like KCCC does as far as clumping and curl enhancing. Seriously, it's my new HG.

After LI, I seal w/ coconut oil and then go to town with FSG. Then I plop for 15 - 20 minutes and add a stronger hold gel on top. Right now I am using a mixture of Biotera with a little Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee mixed in. Aussie Instant Freeze is anti-humectant, I believe. (Don't quote me on that.) I just don't like the smell of it or I would have tried it by now.

While it's not the hair I had during summer, FSG has given me waves again.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:03 PM   #6
 
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That's good to know about the sealing. Winters in Ne are really dry, so I have been killing myself trying to find products I like that are anti-humectant and gluten free too. It's been tough. I might just try the sealing instead and not worry about product. I like AIF and it fits my anti-humectant gluten free needs, but I like AIA CJ better and my hair loves loves loves AG Re:Coil, both of which have glycerin.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:06 PM   #7
 
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That's good to know about the sealing. Winters in Ne are really dry, so I have been killing myself trying to find products I like that are anti-humectant and gluten free too. It's been tough. I might just try the sealing instead and not worry about product. I like AIF and it fits my anti-humectant gluten free needs, but I like AIA CJ better and my hair loves loves loves AG Re:Coil, both of which have glycerin.
Yeah, try sealing and see if it makes a difference - maybe you won't have to come up with completely new products/routine for winter.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:32 PM   #8
 
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I just want to report back that sealing has helped tremendously. Instead of using straight oil, I'm using Regis Olive Oil Leave In conditioner before applying products. Works like a charm. Thank you ladies!!
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:00 PM   #9
 
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Glad sealing is working! I may have finally hit my low dew threshold where I need to start scaling back the glycerin. We had dews in the single digits, and my hair was not happy with the glycerin at that point. But I'm first going to try the LOC method (leave in, oil, cream) to see if that helps first. I already use a leave in and oil, but maybe adding a more moisturizing/heavier cream will do the trick so I don't have to cut out glycerin entirely.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:39 PM   #10
 
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I read that sealing has worked for you. Have you tried butters? That can also work.

Also @jsuskelley3, how is the LOC method working out for you? I've only tried the LO part, but I wonder how big of a difference the cream part would make. Thanks
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:49 PM   #11
 
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Sealing with oil was working beautifully until the dews started dipping below 20 and sometimes into the single digits. I have already been using butters/creams on just my ends, but I haven't officially tried the LOC method on all my hair yet - plan to do this tomorrow when I wash though and see how it goes. I'm hoping that adding this step will fix the problem, so I can keep my glycerin products in rotation. I'll let you know how it goes - the test will be how my hair feels day two, as this is when I really start to notice the dryness.
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My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

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Old 12-01-2012, 08:09 PM   #12
 
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Curl Keeper is great!!
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:11 PM   #13
 
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Curl Keeper is wonderful, but it has glycerin in it. I can only use it in spring and summer.
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