I have done the gels, the cream, the mag sulfate. Not really happy with any of it, except occ Biotera Gel. Recently I have shampooed with Garnier Sleek and Shine Shampoo (it does have a cone in it), GVP CB as RO and a lot of GVP CB as LI, diffuse a little and my hair waves up like crazy and am getting satisfactory 3rd and 4th day hair with finger combing alone.