Wavies, does this lady have a hair twin?

Hi guys. I've been CG two months now and my mom is wanting to join the bandwagon because she envies my curls. I keep telling her that her hair is curly too and that I get it from her. All she needs is the right products and regimen. She is using two low poos: organix coconut and tresemme naturals. She's really into the tresemme naturals conditioner also. I'm trying to figure out what else might work for her. Techniques and products. Whether or not she needs protein, etc. Debating getting her some Deva One Conditioner.

She doesn't like the feel of product in her hair, but she would like for her hair to be more consistent in its texture. She has a straight underlayer but I suspect it's the weight of the hair's length behind the layers weighing it down. I think gel would hold her curl better but she likes mooses so she's experimenting with those. She hates her volume and again I feel gel would help with that because it would encourage her hair to clump. Has that been the case with anyone here?

So right now I'm guessing her properties are fine to medium hair but a lot of it so high density. Medium porosity because her she does go to get get her roots touched up to get rid of those pesky grays. I know coloring increases porosity. And low elasticity because her hair doesn't have much curl so you can't stretch it too much. It also breaks easy but I think that's because it lacks moisture.

So I'm coarse texture, high porosity and low elasticity. The reason I suspect mom might be more of a wavie is that her hair is rarely frizzy. (Mine was all the time before CG.) She could shampoo it everyday with harsh sulfates and it would get dry, yes, but it won't frizz. It's also fairly easy to straighten and just time consuming because of its density and length. She loses a lot of hair in the shower and feel like CG will help with that, too. Her hair, like mine, eats conditioner. It's very thirsty. So that might be because of dehydration, density or it could be because she's even higher than medium porosity. I'm not sure. She doesn't seem to get product buildup easily but then she rarely uses product so. . .

This is what her hair looked like today with about half a handful of moose and after returning home from walking around for two hours in damp, rainy weather. This is the frizziest it'll ever get. To me it looks like a sunny carefree beach wave but she loathes it and never wears it down.

So her daily routine now is shampoo, then half a bottle of conditioner (not kidding), gets out of the shower, plops with a terrycloth towel (I know, I know, but like I said she doesn't get very frizzy), then scrunches in a little moose to damp hair. I think diffusing might make her hair even bigger but it also might encourage curl by cutting out the water weight.

What do you think. . . 2B with 2c potential? 2c with 3a potential? Any product or technique recommendations? Any advice at all would be welcome. I told her I'd ask and see if she had a hair twin walking around out there.
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3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

DevaCare One Condition did wonders for moisturizing my hair. Her hair looks like it could definitely use some help there. If she's scared of gels, maybe a jelly would work better for her. Something like As I Am Curling Jelly (found at Sally's). It still provides decent hold and definition without feeling too product-y. I use it in the spring and summer. In the fall and winter, I switch over to Aussie Instant Freeze gel because it works better in low dew points. Gels and Jellies create a crunchy cast over the hair, BUT you're supposed to scrunch it out once your hair dries so it's soft and doesn't feel product-y. A friend of mine is always ohhing and awwing over how soft my hair feels all the time. So tell your mom to experiment a bit. The mousse might be drying out her hair a bit. It looks kinda frizzy. She really might want to stop using the towel too. Good luck!
Hair Properties: 2A/2B, Medium-fine, Normal porosity, Normal elasticity, Medium density
Low Poo: DevaCare, Yes to Cuc's
Rinse Out: DevaCare One Condition, Yes to Cuc's
Cowash: Suave Naturals Lavender, Yes to Carrots Scalp Conditioner
Curl Cream: AG ReCoil, Organix Moroccan Oil Curl Cream
Gel/Mousse: Sweet Curls Elixirs FSG w/ Mag Sulfate added, Sweet Curls Elixirs hard hold gel, DevaCurl Frizz Free Foam, Aquage Uplifting Foam
Protein: Spiral Solutions Protein Spray for daily use
So I just bought a bottle of the One Conditioner from Ulta and am going to drop it off later. Thanks for your stamp of approval. I really want to try the As I Am Curly Jelly as well because I also prefer jellies to gels. Maybe I should get two later. Oh I've tried to explain scrunch out the crunch to a few people and they always give me this look like "Bwwahhh?" Maybe it's one of those things you need to see in action. I usually let my gel cast naturally open all by itself.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

lol... I scrunch out most of the crunch then let the rest work it's way out. If I didn't though, it would still be crunchy by the end of the day!
Hair Properties: 2A/2B, Medium-fine, Normal porosity, Normal elasticity, Medium density
Low Poo: DevaCare, Yes to Cuc's
Rinse Out: DevaCare One Condition, Yes to Cuc's
Cowash: Suave Naturals Lavender, Yes to Carrots Scalp Conditioner
Curl Cream: AG ReCoil, Organix Moroccan Oil Curl Cream
Gel/Mousse: Sweet Curls Elixirs FSG w/ Mag Sulfate added, Sweet Curls Elixirs hard hold gel, DevaCurl Frizz Free Foam, Aquage Uplifting Foam
Protein: Spiral Solutions Protein Spray for daily use
gvp conditioning balm is a fave among alot of curlies/wavies here. I'm a fine haired girl so my hair needs alot of protein and I still use this conditioner and my hair totally loves it! I use a mousse quite a bit as well so if she doesn't like gels she can try that.
2b, fine, thin, mod cg
loves protein!
Currently using:
cowash: vo5 tea therapy
r/o: biotera volumizing condish, gvp cb
l/i: biotera leave-in
styling: biotera styling gel, curl cream, btz thick enuff cream/mousse
winter styling: btz thick enuff mousse, got2b curling mousse, kenra texturizing putty
I've kind of gotten used to washing my hair at night and sleeping with as much of a gel cast as I can salvage from my jelly of choice: kinky curly curling custard. It doesn't have that much hold but it works really well for me because I'm coarse. With other gels like argan ecostyler and b5 design, I may have to release some of the crunch manually in order to get the look I like. I don't mind it feeling a little crunchy so long as it looks soft. I'm all about the glossy, wispy, romantic-ness of it all!

Curly1, yes, I keep forgetting about that gvp balm. And that's at Sally's too! All right I'm adding it to the shopping list for mom. I like to rotate conditioners myself. It keeps my hair on its toes.
3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

CG since Nov. 2012

Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

* = HG

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