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connie.kvien 03-06-2013 03:26 PM

How to get simple wave?
 
I have a natural horrible wave to my hair so have been straightening it for years. Stumbled upon the CG method which I tried for a few months this past summer. It totally worked - but almost too well. It was more work (or at least as much work) than straightening. And my hair got pretty curly.

Everyone has different opinions and I'm sure some would have loved it, but since my hair isn't that long, I felt it made me look older and like "mom hair". I hope you all know what I mean by that :)

I have gone back to straightening it again so stopped the CG method. I do feel that was great for my hair and would love to wear it more "naturally" (and would LOVE to find a shorter/easier way). Any tips to get more of a simple wave and not so much of a curl to my hair?

While using non-dry CG products, if I blow dry I end up with big poofy, wavy hair (not cute).

I can't remember all the CG products (can find out if you need to know) but followed all the basic steps - washing/rinsing upside down, plopping, blow drying upside down, etc.

Would love to hear your ideas! Thanks! :)

connie.kvien 03-06-2013 03:29 PM

BTW, I am a mom so I meant no offense at all to us moms out there! :) Just trying to stay as young looking and in-style as long as possible :)

asianrunner 03-06-2013 11:13 PM

Do you air dry? Try raking in product rather than scrunching.

bird19 03-07-2013 02:47 PM

I find certain products give me more wave, and others give me less. Certain methods give me more wave, others less.

I'm super low-maintenance, so I get that whole lots-o-work thing--but most of the stuff that's lots of work about CG is intended to get more curl, so if you want less, maybe, for you, if you use CG products but don't do the stuff intended to get more curl, you'd be good?

Cause healthier hair is always better, right? :)

connie.kvien 03-12-2013 09:13 PM

Thanks for all the replies!

No, I didn't air dry. I used a diffuser. My hair is really thick so it takes forever to air dry - even forever to blow dry.

Maybe I will have to dry that? Rake the product in and then blow dry with a diffuser?

Bird19 - any suggestions of products that you use that would give you less wave? Thanks! :)

bird19 03-13-2013 03:20 PM

well, OK, so, my hair's fine and porous, so YMMV, but the one thing both me and my coarse 3B mom found straightening was the alaffia beautiful curls wavy-to-curly gel. It makes both of us shiny and smooth, but with less curl. In my case, that means "flat with a giant flip at the ends," not a good look, but her 3b hair resolves to something that looks more like 2c with 3a bangs.

You also might try, when your hair's wet, post-leave-in, combing through it then not scrunching after. That will leave mine less unruly. But I don't have a strong wave pattern.

You don't say how short your hair is, but if I want mine straight (it's chin length) I'll kind of--reverse plop, I guess. I comb it straight back while wet, tie my flour sack around it, and go about my business for 20 or 30 minutes, then let it go and dry as usual. That straightens it pretty well also.

Luuuuucy 03-14-2013 09:55 AM

I completely understand what you mean on all accounts. I am loving that I'm getting so much curl, but frankly it's more work- certainly more temperamental- right now. I'm holding out hope that when I perfect my routine it will be easier. My issue is that when I wore my hair "straight", I have it a quick blow dry and ran a large curling iron through it for loose waves- and that would last me about 3-4 days. So yeah, there was work involved on day one but I'm not used to having to "deal" with my hair on a daily basis.

For loosening up your waves, what if you applied your product in the shower to detangle and smooth? Then instead of scrunching at all, squeeze all the water out with a towel. I wouldn't plop if you're looking for smooth waves. When I plop, I get big ringlets, I used to say I had waves.

Monkey_ 03-16-2013 02:17 PM

Diffusing definitely gives you more curls than air-drying would. And if you're using the right products, your curls would even stay all day. Mine used to get a bit looser throughout the day. My suggestions is, thought, that if you have to diffuse your hair and get curlier hair than you want, just run through your hair with a leave-in conditioner. That way you're not pulling on your hair too much, it is easier to rake through with your fingers, and you'll be pulling down your curls a bit to create nice waves. :)

connie.kvien 03-27-2013 08:52 PM

I did an experiment today. I washed my hair last night and just let it air dry while sleeping. No product. I ended up with interesting hair. I don't mind the toussled look. But this wasn't really that. I got 2a-2b on the bottom layer, 2c-3a in the middle and 2a on the top. All that together equaled big poofy hair (mushroom as I like to call it), which is not what I want.

I even tried combing it out when I got home to see if I'd get a softer, wavier look but it just made a bigger poof!

When I did the full-on CG method (plopping, pineappling, etc), I would end up with 2b-2c underneath, 2c-3a in the middle and 2b-2c on top. I'm sure some would love this but I did not love the look. I think a lot of the problem is how the middle layer always tends to be curlier than the rest and creates a poof. It looked nicer like this than my experiment today but was just so much work/time-consuming for hair I didn't love.

I will be back to straightening tomorrow but would love any other advice on how to possibly get the hair too end up the same - or at least close to it. I would love for it all to end up in the 2b range. Is that so much to ask? ;)

I know it seems wrong that I'm going for less curly when most are trying to get the most curls...

BTW (best guess) - high porosity, high density, coarse, medium length hair

Thanks so much for all the advice so far and any future advice! :)

bosanbo 03-28-2013 04:31 PM

I have slightly different hair than you, but I had the whole "three layers of different curls" problem. A proper haircut solved that instantly. If you develop a bad shape when you let it dry curly, my first thought is maybe a different hair cut from a curly-friendly stylist. Even if you're trying for less curl, someone who understands curls is still the best to help with that.

For me, a light combing with a wide-toothed comb when wet will instantly loosen my near-ringlets out into bumpy poofy waves.

Yoshimi 03-28-2013 06:50 PM

I got much neater loser curls today, and I think the key was supersoaking, letting the curl kind of set, and then using the diffuser to dry my hair without lifting it or flipping my head, so letting the air travel down the shaft to smooth and not touching the hair much with the bowl. I also used a high heat which reduced my drying time and my frizz (but 50% humidity is a dry day where l live so drying is a constant nightmare)

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connie.kvien 03-28-2013 09:03 PM

Thanks for the replies! Bosanbo, as for a cut, any idea how I'd find a curl-friendly stylist? I live near Fargo, ND so not a huge area with tons of different stylists. I LOVE my stylist and I know she's open to lots of different/new things. Would love to keep seeing her...

Maybe this is wrong to ask but if I get a curl-friendly cut but still can't get the type of curls I like/want, will the cut make make straight hair look okay still?

Its been a while since I've had really long hair - usually end up cutting it since its so thick so hate how long it takes to dry....but am wondering if adding length would help too? Right now it's a little past my shoulders when straight but shortens up with the curl. Wonder if length would help give me a better look and maybe change the curl?

Thanks! :)

bosanbo 03-29-2013 12:24 PM

Since you seem really close with your stylist and like her, maybe ask her if she's interesting in going on a "hair journey" with you, to learn about cutting your hair dry to encourage the wave and also look good straighter? There's tons of videos out there, maybe the two of you together could learn some things and try them out? :idea1:

I have a family friend from ND, so I know what you mean... I say stick with the stylist you like and ask her to learn about curly/wavy hair with you!

I've had good longer cuts that included minimal layering to encourage the curl, but the layering was even enough that if my hair was straight it still looked nice. It gave me good movement at the ends when it was loose and wavy. I find that a blunt cut, even when I wear my hair straight, tends to "poof" at the ends because the wave is still "in there" - it will never be stick straight and the ends just want to moooove!

CurlyMJ 03-29-2013 12:55 PM

AG Beach Bomb - this will get you very nice simple bohemian waves. I have 3a hair but with this I get pretty simple 2something waves. Also if you're going to diffuse, I've heard that you should point the hair dryer down the length of the hair instead of putting your hair in the big diffuser part and blowing the air up if you don't want big hair. Good luck!

yossarian 03-29-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkey_ (Post 2138236)
Diffusing definitely gives you more curls than air-drying would.

I always assumed the opposite: that air drying would enhance my curls. Do others also find that diffusing makes their hair curlier?

CurlyMJ 03-29-2013 10:27 PM

Yes - I've noticed that my hair is curlier when I diffuse vs when I air dry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yossarian (Post 2146593)

I always assumed the opposite: that air drying would enhance my curls. Do others also find that diffusing makes their hair curlier?



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