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Old 05-05-2013, 09:58 AM   #21
 
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I'm sure Whole Foods or Trader Joe's would have it if you have any of these stores around you.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:07 AM   #22
 
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Are you a States curly? I've found it in local supermarkets (Publix in FL) but you can also get it in health food stores and online as well.

Make sure you get "virgin" coconut oil...unrefined! The refined kind is not as good for hair/skin.

You can also try olive oil to your poo.
Yes I'm a states nj pa! Virgin unrefined got it, what section? Olive oil I'm assuming also virgin?
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I know you're not asking me but yes, extra virgin olive oil. It's the best kind. Not just for you hair but for your food. (I'm a foodie.)

Have you tried prepooing? Some people add oil to their low poos but I like adding it (a few tbsp) to my hair 30 minutes to an hour before I wash and that works really well for me. That way I can cleanse my scalp without drying out my hair. (I'm highly porous.) It's really easy too. You just have to remember to do it. Now it's become a habit and my hair is thanking me for it.
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I get my EVCO and my EVOO from the oil section of the supermarket. They're usually close to one another although some supermarkets they'll put the EVCO near the Asian spices.
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I get my EVCO and my EVOO from the oil section of the supermarket. They're usually close to one another although some supermarkets they'll put the EVCO near the Asian spices.
Oooo this is a response to both your posts! Thanks for the info il be sure to pick some up during my next trip! I can't wait to try! Do you always low poo?
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I can see the logic in virgin oils (not solvent extracted, possibly more anti inflammatory phytonutrients) for food and skincare/ scalpcare but TBH I can't for hair which is dead. AFAIK the key benefits of coconut and olive oils are the fatty acids lauric and oleic which can be absorbed into the hair shaft. These are present in all oils regardless of perceived 'quality'. If someone has some science-based information/ published research I'd be genuinely interested in a linky (eternal student/ geek here).


Angelicak: 'not bad/ pretty good' is not the same as a clean balanced diet, you only need one deficiency or imbalance to negatively affect the entire body. It's totally unfair but some of us are far more susceptible than others. Do you consistently meet or exceed ALL your government's recommendations for healthy eating and lifestyle? I almost never see a client that does yet our UK recommendations are woefully inadequate.

Most people do not eat anything like enough oily fish nor a wide range of fruit and veg in the full rainbow of colours (bright and dark not pale), these all have anti inflammatory properties. Pro inflammatory foods include white refined carbs, sugars, saturated animal fats, omega-6 oils, caffeine and alcohol. Whilst wheat per se is not necessarily a bad thing, most of us eat way too much and always processed, rarely whole wheat berries, so foods like bread, pasta and breakfast cereals are effectively pre-digested and turn to blood sugar quickly. The problem with caffeine is that it also disturbs sleep quality, this puts your body into a state of stress which again is linked to systemic inflammation and inappropriate immune responses.

Your dermatological issue could be on your scalp now, obviously you would need to see a doctor for that but there is a strong link with inflammation within that condition. I am not familiar enough with that form of urticaria to make any claims about diet there, but I can say that other conditions where excess histamine is a problem such as hayfever can be improved or even become totally asymptomatic with diet modification.

Cocoa dusted almonds are packed with nutrients and low sugar which is brilliant, but they are a source of omega-6s most of which are pro inflammatory, and also rich in oleic acid an excess of which in the sebum may be a problem in some skin issues. These must be balanced out with plenty of the long chain omega-3s DHA and EPA (from oily fish, to a lesser degree omega-enriched eggs).

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I can see the logic in virgin oils (not solvent extracted, possibly more anti inflammatory phytonutrients) for food and skincare/ scalpcare but TBH I can't for hair which is dead. AFAIK the key benefits of coconut and olive oils are the fatty acids lauric and oleic which can be absorbed into the hair shaft. These are present in all oils regardless of perceived 'quality'. If someone has some science-based information/ published research I'd be genuinely interested in a linky (eternal student/ geek here).


Angelicak: 'not bad/ pretty good' is not the same as a clean balanced diet, you only need one deficiency or imbalance to negatively affect the entire body. It's totally unfair but some of us are far more susceptible than others. Do you consistently meet or exceed ALL your government's recommendations for healthy eating and lifestyle? I almost never see a client that does yet our UK recommendations are woefully inadequate.

Most people do not eat anything like enough oily fish nor a wide range of fruit and veg in the full rainbow of colours (bright and dark not pale), these all have anti inflammatory properties. Pro inflammatory foods include white refined carbs, sugars, saturated animal fats, omega-6 oils, caffeine and alcohol. Whilst wheat per se is not necessarily a bad thing, most of us eat way too much and always processed, rarely whole wheat berries, so foods like bread, pasta and breakfast cereals are effectively pre-digested and turn to blood sugar quickly. The problem with caffeine is that it also disturbs sleep quality, this puts your body into a state of stress which again is linked to systemic inflammation and inappropriate immune responses.

Your dermatological issue could be on your scalp now, obviously you would need to see a doctor for that but there is a strong link with inflammation within that condition. I am not familiar enough with that form of urticaria to make any claims about diet there, but I can say that other conditions where excess histamine is a problem such as hayfever can be improved or even become totally asymptomatic with diet modification.

Cocoa dusted almonds are packed with nutrients and low sugar which is brilliant, but they are a source of omega-6s most of which are pro inflammatory, and also rich in oleic acid an excess of which in the sebum may be a problem in some skin issues. These must be balanced out with plenty of the long chain omega-3s DHA and EPA (from oily fish, to a lesser degree omega-enriched eggs).

HTH.
Do you think a fish oil supplement would be beneficial to start with?
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Do you think a fish oil supplement would be beneficial to start with?
Are you not eating oily fish? This supplies a range of essential nutrients including bioavailable vitamin D. I don't know your full medical history/ diet so would suggest you discuss any supplements with your family doctor, most are pleased if you take a high strength DHA/ EPA supplement tho.
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Do you think a fish oil supplement would be beneficial to start with?
Are you not eating oily fish? This supplies a range of essential nutrients including bioavailable vitamin D. I don't know your full medical history/ diet so would suggest you discuss any supplements with your family doctor, most are pleased if you take a high strength DHA/ EPA supplement tho.
Not that often like 1 every two weeks or so
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Angelica, my routine is co-wash, co-wash 2x a week and low-poo on the third wash. I use Trader Joes Tea Tree Tingle Conditioner as my co-wash. I do the whole lighter conditioner on the scalp, heavier rinse out routine. Well, I still use the TTT on my hair because of its slip but I mix it with a heavier rinse out. Tresemme Naturals + Shea Moisture Curl & Shine, Yucca Baobab, Restorative Conditioner. Then on the third day I low poo with either the Yucca Baobab shampoo (which I know you have!) or the Moisture Retention one. But I often prepoo even on days I don't poo. Why? Well, I just have thirsty, very porous hair that doesn't like being washed so often. But it needs to be washed because otherwise it gets too tangled and I mess it up when I exercise. I think you'd only need to prepoo before a low poo though. At least for most people. My hair's different. It takes a beating from the arid climate and insufferable sun.
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Don't know if your still using it, but I have come to realize that the Suave Naturals line seems to make me itch. I've tried Tropical Coconut & Eternal Sunshine. I switched to a low poo instead of Cowash and the itching has went away. So far my favorite low poo is acure.
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Not that often like 1 every two weeks or so
Then perhaps increase your oily fish intake? The recommended minimum for a healthy adult is two servings a week, it's honestly a true superfood and humans likely evolved eating seafood on a daily basis (see 'out of Africa' theory maps, mollusc shell middens). Certainly omega-3s and vitamin D are essential micronutrients, yet there are very few good food sources of either.

Nutrition plays a huge role in skin health, can literally make conditions like hayfever (which is genetically linked to asthma and dermatitis) asymptomatic in some individuals. Oftentimes when people eat too little fish and other seafood they are eating too much muscle meat from farmed land animals - pro inflammatory in excess - so the negative effects can be cumulative.
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To the OP... if you're still having the itchies, honestly your diet probably has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you said your scalp wasn't itching before, but you started using some new poos/condishes on your scalp and then it started itching, it is highly likely that you have a sensitivity/allergy to that product, or that somehow that product is aggravating a skin condition that you have already. Either way, it's wise to discontinue usage.

We can speculate online until the cows come home about what ingredient or what scalp condition you may have. A quick visit to the derm for a proper examination of your scalp can save you a lot of headache. IT could be a lot of things, a profesional opinion can better point you in the right direction, and makes sure you're not causing further damage. Good luck!
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