Any other wavies have a double crown?

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Does anybody else have a double crown on their head? I'm having trouble with my hair again, but I think the problem this time is because of my double crown. When I scrunch my hair in the shower with gel, everything's great...but when I flip my head upright to put the clips in, everything falls apart.

The back of my head turns into a horrible mess. The hair that's supposed to fall from the back of my head instead falls to the sides in a giant tangled mess. When I try to separate the curl clumps and shake my head so that they'll fall back naturally, it doesn't work. I end up pulling apart the clumps and I end up with thin, stringy waves in the back of my head and large clumps of perfect waves in the front.

Does anybody else have a double crown, and could you possibly give me any pointers? I was thinking about scrunching while standing straight up, but I just wanted to see if anybody had any other ideas I could try first.

Thanks.
Maybe flip your head the right way up before scrunching in the gel? Just lean to the left and then to the right to get both sides. Or you could experiment with root brushing a la Jonathan Torch (see YouTube video).
Maybe flip your head the right way up before scrunching in the gel? Just lean to the left and then to the right to get both sides. Or you could experiment with root brushing a la Jonathan Torch (see YouTube video).
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
I just watched the video...it's definitely worth looking into. I'm just nervous that brushing might straighten my waves...I haven't touched a brush in about 2 months ever since I went CG. :/
I just watched the video...it's definitely worth looking into. I'm just nervous that brushing might straighten my waves...I haven't touched a brush in about 2 months ever since I went CG. :/
Originally Posted by jacharron
It may well pull out your waves which is why I suggested upside down first. You may be able to counteract your waves being stretched out to some extent by scrunching in everything else, from your wash off conditioner down. Also you might just brush the problem section not the whole head, or you could use a comb instead of a brush. Everything is an experiment, there is no one routine that works for even all 2s, I wholeheartedly wish there was!!
Not sure if I have a double crown or not, but I have to comb just my crown or it's a mess. I rake and scrunch in all my products while bent over, stand back up allow my hair to fall naturally, then I use a wide tooth comb to arrange my crown, then rescrunch that area right side up. Seems to work ok. If I don't comb it, I end up with like 3 parts in the back with my hair trying to fall to the sides rather than to the back.
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I figured I would post an update here in case anybody else has the same problem and searches the forum for an answer.

Here's what worked for me: (and gave me amazing hair that I absolutely love for the past two washes now )

After washing and conditioning with the Devacurl line, I let the water run over my head and rake my fingers through to arrange my hair where it would fall naturally out of the water.

Next, I lightly scrunch a little bit of water out of the three areas of my head (each side and the back of my head).

Then I take the gel and scrunch the three areas individually standing upright. Right side, left side, back...you get the idea.

Then I gently flip my head upside down but DO NOT try to arrange my hair...I let it fall naturally. The back side of my hair (because of the double crown) does not flip all the way over and I leave it this way.

If I touch it at this point, or try to get my hair to fall forward all the way so I can scrunch it, the curls separate and I'm left with a giant ball of frizz and stringy hair once my hair is dry.

I scrunch the hair that has fallen forward naturally on its own. I then slide a bit of gel in at the roots of my hair, scrunch as much water out as I can, and flip my head upright.

I then take a microfiber towel and scrunch the three areas standing upright again to make sure I get all the water out of my hair (side, side, back).

I then clip the roots and leave it to air dry (I haven't tried diffusing using this routine yet).

I guess it's just a modified version of the Devacurl 3-step process, but it's worked great for my hair and I get big fat curl family clumps even with my double crown. It's also gotten rid of a few visible scalp areas (caused by the double crown).

Finally...after four months of going CG and embracing my waves, I've finally found a routine that works for me. So happy.

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