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Old 06-12-2013, 05:06 PM   #1
 
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Red face Matrix vs Morrocanoil vs Pureology

Ok people are probably tired of hearing me ask about how to moisturize my hair but I'm back.


So I have been looking at some shampoos and conditioners and I realized I need quality and to get quality, I need to spend money a lot of money so I am prepared to but an expensive shampoo and conditioner. And I have found these three brands they are all salon brands and they are known to have good products that give you moisture. So basically I want it compare all of these brands. What do you guys think is the best brand for:

Medium/fine hair (my hair is becoming finer and finer and I know thats not a good thing, so I need to start treating my hair quickly)
Easily tangled
Dry
Sun damaged
Long
Strong waves/big curls

Please help me by posting what you think I should try and your experience (if you have any) with these brands. If you think none of these brands are good then please recommend another one.
Oh yah I still do have a budget though its $0(LOL)-$25.00

Thanks in advance
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:06 PM   #2
 
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The best way to choose ingredients/products is by hair properties. Here's a link to help you with yours Curly Hair Basics | Live Curly Live Free Once you determine your properties, you can look for others with similar hair and see what they use.

You can also read a little about ingredients and what your hair needs. IMHO, salon products aren't all that. You can go to Sally's and buy some of their "clones," at a cheaper price and see what they do. Personally, I'd read the ingredients on the Morrocanoil--they are filled with 'cones.

My hair prefers the more natural products from the online, boutique type companies. I stay away from a lot of chemicals. While I don't care for the Shea Moisture products, there are a lot of people on these boards who really like them. Another reasonably priced line that you can get on the ground are the Yes To products. If you read the ingredients, they are pretty good.

If your hair is getting thinner, I'd think protein. Personally, I do at least one PT a week and use a lot of products with protein. You also should be eating a lot of protein and drinking a lot of water. Building blocks of healthy skin (and hair.)
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:12 AM   #3
 
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Salon brands are not better than less well known brands, that is marketing nonsense, many use the same harsh surfactants to cleanse and the same silicones to give faux shine and slip (reviewers mistake this for health or moisture) as drugstore brands. If your ends are thin or tangling you probably need a trim before the least healthy hair starts damaging the healthier hair.

Agree with KathyMack, choose your ingredients based on your hair properties, then choose your products based on the ingredients (and reviews). I don't believe any commercial shampoo is truly moisturising, any conditioning ingredients just slightly mitigate against the damage/ stripping it is doing. Some of the best ingredients for porous or damaged hair include coconut oil, ceramides, panthenol and hydrolysed proteins.

Depending on your climate these can be combined with humectants (attract water) like aloe vera or honey. Ingredients wise I particularly rate the Komaza Care brand, for example the Moja shampoo which is pH 4.5 so will help the cuticle lay flat
"Distilled Water,Decyl Glucoside, Polyglucose, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, CocoGlucose, Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate Behentrimonium, Cetyl Alcohol, Aloe Vera, Guar Gum, Algae Extract, Quaternium 87, Polyquaternium 10, Ceramide, Allantoin, Honey Quat, Lethicin, Aloe Vera Oil, Jojoba Esters, Coconut Oil, Wheat Germ Oil, Nettles, Horsetail, Geranium, Peppermint, Marshmallow, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Vitamin B3, Pro Vitamin B5, Vitamin B6, Citric Acid, Phthalates-Free Vegetarian Fragrance, Phenoxyethanol."
Komaza Care - The Complete Hair Solution

My new favourite protein rich conditioner is Schwarzkopf Gliss (Kur) Ultimate Volume which is certainly super cheap here in the UK, plenty of beneficial ingredients emboldened
"Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Hydrolyzed Collagen, Panthenol, Cocodimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Isopropyl Myristate, behonoyl PG-Trimonium Chloride, Citric Acid, VP/VA Coplymer, Phenoxyethanol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Sodium Methylparaben, Hexylene Glycol, Parfum, Polyquaternium-37, Dicaprylyl Carbonate, Hexyl Cinnamal, Amyl Cinnamal, Limonene, Linalool, Benzyl Salicylate."

You can make an effective deep conditioner from a cheap base conditioner plus coconut oil plus honey plus aloe vera if desired.
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:03 PM   #4
 
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Honestly, I've used Matrix products and I've used Purology products and I've found Deva's DevaCare Low Poo and One Condition to be a lot more moisturizing. So if you're going to spend that kind of money, you might want to consider DevaCare too. I think Matrix and Purology both contain silicones too.

I know a lot of people who had very good experiences with Yes to Carrots, which you can find at Walgreens. I haven't tried that line myself though because of the wheat in them (my scalp does NOT like wheat).
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:03 AM   #5
 
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I think YTcarrots has cones but the YTcucumbers does not. So look for the latter.

I agree w/ above posters, choose products based on ingredients and on properties. Expensive salon brands are in no way better than many of the quality products that can be found in drugstores (like the SheaMoisture line) or ordered online.

But you do have to get smart about ingredients and start choosing products with good ingredients and ingredients that fit your specific needs.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:06 AM   #6
 
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If your hair is fine, dry and damaged (so probably porous) you'll probably need some protein. I just started using the SheaMoisture Coconut/Hibiscus curl and style milk... it has protein and has been doing great things for my hair. It's available at CVS, Walgreens, Target. You'll probably need moisture too.
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fine - low porosity - medium density - normal elasticity. Very high dews. Soft water.

Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni 2chic BK&AO
RO: TN Radiant Care, Giovanni SaS, Ogx BKT*, Sukin Nourishing, SS Caitlin's, various
LI: sometimes TN Radiant Care
Styler: FSG with CNPF, CJ Pattern Pusha, Volumax Mega, Ouidad Climate Control*, Ogx BKT serum*
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

*have cones
underline = I love these!

iherb discount code: CFN646
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