What happens to your hair if you don't use protein?

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Basically I'm 9 months post partum. I'm about to get the big chop, but I'm looking for anything I may have missed to possibly save my locks. Right now my curls are so dried out and frizzy. Before pregnancy, my hair hated protein...is it possible it wants protein now? What happens to your hair if you don't give it protein regularly?

Also, is their a protein treatment you would recommend to try out that I could get right away? (i.e.- nothing from online vendors). Thanks!
What have you been using in your hair? Do you know your hair properties?
Salt & pepper wavy mix 2B/2C
Low to normal porosity, coarse, kinky, normal elasticity
Current favorites:
Low poo: Yes To Cukes Color Protection (the no sulfate one)
Conditioners: Renpure MPHIP, CJ Smoothing Lotion, AB LI, CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan/Olive, Darcy's Pumpkin
Style: FSG, BRHG
Pre-poo/DT: Conditioner with honey & coconut oil

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I haven't been using anything with protein cause I was always so protein sensitive.

I believe my hair is low porosity...I don't heat style or color my hair, so it's never really damaged.
There are many brands at Sally's and Target that have protein in the regular conditioner. There is no reason protein has to come from a PT. It would help us help you if you listed what products you are currently using.
2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
Do you know if you have fine or coarse hair?
If you are thinking about BCing anyway, I would suggest you just try some protein before... It sounds like you are pretty desperate and like your hair almost couldn't get any worse, so why don't you just try?

What products are you using right now?
2c: fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity, normal-high density
CG since March 8th 2013
Low Poo: Rainforest Radiance shampoo
Conditioner: Yes to Cucumbers
Styler: BRHG, Garnier Fructis Gel
PT: Gliss Kur Repair & Volume


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I use mostly DevaCurl and the SheaMoisture Gold colored line. I recently got the Yes to Carrots orange shampoo and conditioner for normal to dry hair....love how it feels in the shower but when I get out my hair is the same once it dries. I also tried the SM curling souffle today, but I usually use Angel or the Kiss My Face grapefruit gel or perhaps the KC Styling Spritz or Custard.
My hair is fine but I have a lot of it btw. To me it has always felt coarse though, but yet it weighs down easily (at least before pregnancy)...now I have resorted to olive oil and it barely makes a dent!
Most of the Deva stuff has protein in it. But it sounds like you may need more moisture/ conditioning. When you say your hair is dry, what do you mean exactly? Does it FEEL dry to the touch, does it frizz, what makes you think it is dry? Also, how much are you conditioning it? Do you rinse it all out, do you leave some in, etc? Do you do any deep conditioning treatments (Coconut oil/ honey/ conditioner left in overnite, etc?)
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
I use mostly DevaCurl and the SheaMoisture Gold colored line. I recently got the Yes to Carrots orange shampoo and conditioner for normal to dry hair....love how it feels in the shower but when I get out my hair is the same once it dries. I also tried the SM curling souffle today, but I usually use Angel or the Kiss My Face grapefruit gel or perhaps the KC Styling Spritz or Custard.
Originally Posted by Fluffy01
Deva products tend to contain glycerin, does that suit your dew points/ humidity at present? Also shea butter can build up, have you clarified recently or chelated if you have hard water/ go swimming?
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I actually don't use any Deva products with protein in them. I use the One C and No Poo, Angel, ArcAngel, and the Volumizing mousse.

I've tried Argon oil and olive oil for overnight treatments.
I use shea moisture shea butter mask. I've left olive oil in as a leave in as well as the yes to carrots conditioner before.

My hair is just very parched looking. It feels dry once it's dry and looks frizzy and puffy.
I actually don't use any Deva products with protein in them. I use the One C and No Poo, Angel, ArcAngel, and the Volumizing mousse.

I've tried Argon oil and olive oil for overnight treatments.
I use shea moisture shea butter mask. I've left olive oil in as a leave in as well as the yes to carrots conditioner before.

My hair is just very parched looking. It feels dry once it's dry and looks frizzy and puffy.
Originally Posted by Fluffy01
Deva's Angel, arcangel, the mousse, and I THINK the no poo and one C have protein, although not hydrolyzed so they're not as strong- but they are there. Usually hops and wheat.

Regardless, it sounds like you need more moisture OR you're hair is reacting to having too much glycerin in high or very low dews (humidity). Deva stuff is LOADED with glycerin. I absolutely cannot use them in the summer here in Florida, but LOVE the arc angel in the winter. What is your climate like there? Could it be that? Glycerin attracts moisture from the air, so in high humidity conditions, it attracts "too much" and causes frizz.
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
I'm in South Carolina, so high dewpoints and some humidity.

I did try a day or two sans glycerin, but I didn't notice any improvement....do I need to go longer?

I also quite the deva stuff a week ago and have been using yes to carrots ever since. Still no improvement.


Thanks!
I'm in South Carolina, so high dewpoints and some humidity.

I did try a day or two sans glycerin, but I didn't notice any improvement....do I need to go longer?
Originally Posted by Fluffy01
Are you using any conditioner on your hair after washing (leave in or just your regular condish?)

What other styling products do you have without glycerin?

Do you have any gels/ jellies? ETA: I just noticed you used the SM curling souffle today- how did that work for you? It has a lot of glycerin, though, too so if that's the issue- it probably didn't work out so well...
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip

Last edited by chloe92us; 06-18-2013 at 01:25 PM.
I think I tried leaving in the Yes to Carrots one day then generally just a bit of olive oil, but most days I don't leave anything in.

When I was doing the sans glycerin experiment I was using the KCCC. I don't think I have anything else that doesn't have it in there....my Kiss My Face grapefruit gel has hylauronic acid, which I think is along the same lines, so it wouldn't count.
By the way, I'm currently thinking of trying the Curl Junkie sample sets for conditioner and styling...do you think those products might help? I see you use some of them. I honestly don't know what all your acronyms mean in your signature, but I know those lol. Sounds like your hair could be similar to mine when my hair is behaving.
I don't think your issue is with protein. I think it's an issue with moisture/ humectant balance in these humid months.

Do you have some coconut oil at home? You could try an overnight deep conditioning treatment with coconut oil, mixed with some of your conditioner. Leave in overnight, then wash it out in the morning.

Then, I would experiment with glycerin free products for a week. The Kiss My Face gel & KCCC don't have any, so you could use those. But you may need a harder holding gel to tame the frizz, in my opinion. The Dep Sport gel @ Walgreens is cheap and glycerin free. LA Looks Sport or mega gel do have glycerin, but they're far down on the list and don't give me problems for some reason.

Not everyone is glycerin sensitive in high humidity, so it may not be that. But what you're describing (frizz) is what happens for me.
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
Oh and on the SM curling souffle....my hair is still drying cause I bun it wet most days since I have little fingers that like to pull my hair. I did ironically just let it down after she pulled my bun half down while falling asleep...she can't fall asleep without pulling my hair...it's frustrating! She's not breaking it off too much, though...thank goodness. But the point is that it will hopefully be dry soon!
You know I've tried coconut oil before, and it never has done much for me....weird I know. Olive oil has worked better for me than coconut oil ever did! I guess I could leave that in overnight? Does it have to be mixed with conditioner you think? I try to keep my hair mostly dry and in a top knot at night cause little one sleeps with the knot in her hand...yes we have a weird cosleeping arrangement but for right now mama's sleep is more important than correcting her weird sleep habits lol.
Thanks again!
We were typing at the same time!

Most of the products in my signature have to be purchased online, so I was avoiding suggesting them since you mentioned you want to purchase on the groun.

I have KCCC but I don't use it regularly- for me, it makes my hair feel producty regardless of the amount I use even though I like the way it looks.

CJ Curls in a bottle (CIAB) is a serum-like product I use to smooth on frizzies, or use under a hard hold gel like LA Looks.

CJ PP is pattern pusha- it's a glycerin free medium hold gel I'm experimenting with and like so far.

I just did a protein treatment this morning- CJ Repair Me- holy curls and shine batman!!!!

LALSG/MG are the LA Looks gels I mentioned above.

Okra gel is my absolute favorite hair product of all time, there's a recipe thread going if you have the time to make a batch- it might be your saving grace.

I almost always use 2-3 layers of products every day. 1) is a leave in conditioner (Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Shea Moisture Milk, KCKT). 2) is a "curl enhancer" like okra gel, Uncle Funky's Curly Magic, Spiral Solutions Curl enhancing jelly, and 3) a medium to hard hold gel on top (LA Looks, CJ Pattern Pusha, Dep Sport, Spiral Solutions Firm Hold Gel).

The last bit of gel is what really defies the frizz and keeps the clumps intact throughout the day. The curl enhancer layer really just clumps my hair together. It took me a while to get here.
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2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
Hmm, if you're cosleeping then I don't think I'd do the oil thing overnight, lol! Okay, forget about the overnight DT's for now!

I remember those days!!!!! They get better!!!!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip

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