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chupie 07-04-2013 12:02 PM

Test vlog for wavies
 
I made a test vlog for wavies. Seems like there isn't a lot out there for 2a 2b types so I am beta testing. See what you think.

http://youtu.be/tVcQUnNdnpU

chloe92us 07-05-2013 11:46 AM

It looks good! I was thinking of uploading some vids too! I get so frustrated when looking for curly tips on youtube, too, because so many of them are more tight curls.

Firefox7275 07-05-2013 11:51 AM

I will subscribe Chloe92us!

Janicke31 07-05-2013 11:58 AM

I like it too, you have a very nice beachy texture! I agree there aren't enough 2's making videos on YouTube...Chloe yes make a video, i love your hair!!!


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chupie 07-05-2013 12:05 PM

I think we are a seriously overlooked market.

Firefox7275 07-05-2013 12:12 PM

Chupie would you consider a tutorial/ review on conditioner only styling? I couldn't find a single one from a wavy/ curly in the 2s on YouTube yet that Videojug tutorial was on a wavy.

chupie 07-05-2013 12:19 PM

Yeah I was just thinking about that this morning. I'll try and do that this weekend.

wavydaze 07-05-2013 06:09 PM

I second (or third or fourth) Chupie and Chloe vlogs!

wavydaze 07-05-2013 09:16 PM

I started writing a really long essay.

Basically what I was writing was that curly hair is sociologically charged in a way that wavy hair (talking more 2b/2a here) is not. I respect that part of the natural movement and sites like nc.com function as a safe space for exploration, communal learning, as well as self-acceptance and empowerment for those with tighter curl patterns, patterns that are not frequently accepted, represented nor idealized in mainstream media (unlike 2a beach waves).

This is part of the reason why there isn't so much "wavy content" on this site. I respect that.

Another reason is because I don't think people with wavy hair really realize that their hair can actually benefit so much from "curly hair care." It is naturallycurly and not naturallywavy after all. The distinctions between wavy and curly are too hard in mainstream thinking anyway IMO, which actually leads back to curly hair being sociologically charged.



I'm all for more wavy content on this site! I just wanted to get that out there... it was buggin me. Us looser wavies aren't underprivileged in any way in the big picture as long as the mainstream idealizes our pattern (which it does and has for decades).

chupie 07-05-2013 09:43 PM

Yes but I don't think the mainstream does. The mainstream idealizes ironed waves. Go through YouTube. Most of the videos for wavies, I'm talking 90 percent, have you blow your hair straight and then curl it to look wavy. And products all use pictures of wavies that are Perfect. Silicone smooth and shiny. I can tell just by how my stylist does my hair after touch ups even though she knows I'm trying to emphasize the wave and she uses a diffuser, the irons and wands still come out as well as hairspray. She is interested in anything I show her but its clear natural wavy is not taught in beauty school. So in a way there is now more out there for curly than wavy.

And I don't know about anyone else but before i discovered the wavies here I thought I was crazy because unless I totally fry my hair into spirals with an iron I can't get my hair to "style" and even then it's wonky. I tried time and again to get "beachy waves" with a curling iron and it looked AWFUL. So even a weak wavy pattern fights wave placed upon it. Perms get screwed up because you always get over processed And in general since the flat iron came back into fashion that's the only recourse you have in the mainstream thinking just like curlies, only you feel fake about everything you try and do whether its go straight or go curly . Anyhow that's how I feel.

Firefox7275 07-06-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wavydaze (Post 2187775)
I started writing a really long essay.

Basically what I was writing was that curly hair is sociologically charged in a way that wavy hair (talking more 2b/2a here) is not. I respect that part of the natural movement and sites like nc.com function as a safe space for exploration, communal learning, as well as self-acceptance and empowerment for those with tighter curl patterns, patterns that are not frequently accepted, represented nor idealized in mainstream media (unlike 2a beach waves).

This is part of the reason why there isn't so much "wavy content" on this site. I respect that.

Another reason is because I don't think people with wavy hair really realize that their hair can actually benefit so much from "curly hair care." It is naturallycurly and not naturallywavy after all. The distinctions between wavy and curly are too hard in mainstream thinking anyway IMO, which actually leads back to curly hair being sociologically charged.

I'm all for more wavy content on this site! I just wanted to get that out there... it was buggin me. Us looser wavies aren't underprivileged in any way in the big picture as long as the mainstream idealizes our pattern (which it does and has for decades).

I am in the 2s and don't have what anyone would describe as beach waves. I literally did not know I have 2c ringlets at the front until my late thirties, neither did my own mother, nor one single hair stylist. By the time I found the CG method I'd ponytailed my 'bad hair' 24/7 for the best part of a decade. The last layered cut I had to 'work with' my waves looked like Farrah Fawcett back in the seventies literally within five minutes of leaving the salon, every other time they have tried to flat iron it. I never received complements on my hair before CG despite you claiming society idealises it.

Artificial waves are currently valued natural waves are not, largely through ignorance. The vast majority of people with natural waves start out disliking them or not even knowing they exist - often describing their hair in the most unflattering terms as 'straight' yet kinky, wonky, messy, frizzy, fluffy, poofy, unmanageable, ugly or horrible. Many of us spent years or even decades brushing, flat ironing, BKT-ing, ponytail/ bunning or curly perming our hair into submission.

Clearly there is not the political and historical undercurrents with caucasian wavy hair as there is with African kinky-coily hair in the west, I hope no wavy would want to subtract from the natural hair movement just add to it. I know my hair type is in the minority in the wavy-curly community, I'd just like some content but recognise that it's up to us to push for and provide that.

Just as many African American ladies have put themselves out there to provide information for other 3s and 4s, start up small businesses supplying rich products with high quality ingredients. We can admire, learn from and be inspired by our curlier sisters, I support them by recommending their blogs, videos, articles and products. But I also recognise that techniques and products that help kinky-coilys to weigh down and stretch out their curls are the very opposite of what many wavies need.

There is a difference between substantially less wavy content - which is logical since there seem to be fewer active 2s than 3s and 4s - and absolutely no new content in a couple of years. I would be totally happy if a new NC wavy blogger or YouTube vlogger had hair that wasn't like mine, because I have porous hair and some 2c sections I can take more away from the curlier girls than a 2a/b with fine thin hair.

Pookarina 07-06-2013 10:23 AM

Wavy hair is often described, even in the CG book, as just enough curl to look 'unkempt' rather than gloriously curly or straight

We seem to go through an awful lot of trouble to 'look unkempt'.

I agree that wavies are underappreciated, And we need more blogs, clogs, and products aimed at US.

Tripgirl3a 07-06-2013 10:45 AM

I am thinking about making a YouTube channel on my wavy hair. I have 2a-2c with it mostly being 2c, but I think it would help out a lot of other wavies as well. What do you guys think? I think I will do nail art videos and makeup tutorials as well. Like an overall beauty channel. Does that sound like something you guys would watch?

Firefox7275 07-06-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripgirl3a (Post 2187888)
I am thinking about making a YouTube channel on my wavy hair. I have 2a-2c with it mostly being 2c, but I think it would help out a lot of other wavies as well. What do you guys think? I think I will do nail art videos and makeup tutorials as well. Like an overall beauty channel. Does that sound like something you guys would watch?

I will watch and I am sure a few on the Facebook Wavy Hair Community will too. I'm not big on other beauty stuff but the more variety you do the more subscribers you will attract I would imagine.

nicki.hallen 07-06-2013 11:37 AM

I'm a 2a, new to cg and would totally appreciate a vlog. I bet there's plenty of people out there like me who never even knew they had waves because very few stylists suggest to wear it wavy or ever style it without using a curling iron. Sigh. I'm all for tips and tricks though and appreciate your efforts! I know I sure could use the help!!!

okyouwin 07-06-2013 01:42 PM

I'm pretty new to the wavy girl thing too. I would LOVE to see more! I haven't flat ironed my hair in 6 weeks and don't plan on doing it any time soon. I'm quickly approaching 50 and have been ignoring/fighting my waves since they showed up over 2 decades ago. No more! I've been shocking the heck out of my friends and family lately when they see me because no one knew how curly my hair was! Bring on the vlogs please!

Tripgirl3a 07-06-2013 02:57 PM

So I'm thinking about posting my first video today. What would be a good topic for my first video? Get to know me? My curly hair routine?

Firefox7275 07-06-2013 03:29 PM

Ooooh exciting! I think information about your hair type and properties, a slow 360 degree view of your hair so we can see the different curl patterns, a 'before' photo if you can edit one in, the bare bones of your routine. Not necessarily detail about products and techniques but that you follow Curly Girl or a modified version (if you do).

Obviously some of it would be stuff we on NC would know, but I'm thinking if newbies found your channel by searching YouTube they might be totally unaware of CG and hair properties. Maybe then just tell people what you are thinking of covering in future videos, be that tutorials or reviews or whatever?

Tripgirl3a 07-06-2013 03:37 PM

Good idea! I think I will do that. I might be able to squeeze it in tonight or I'll just wait until tomorrow.

Janicke31 07-06-2013 09:17 PM

Great idea, make a channel!

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