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Old 07-13-2013, 12:38 PM   #1
 
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Default Can you help type my hair and rec me products please?

Hi everyone!

I've been CG on and off for about 4 years now but I never really saw a huge improvement when I was CG. I finally decided to ask you guys!

I've always thought I was a 2C but I'm not sure. Can you help me type my hair and recommend me products and haircuts please? I was thinking of cutting it above my shoulder to make it look more polished.

Thank you in advance!
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:26 PM   #2
 
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What are your hair properties and dew points/ humidity? Choose your products based on that not curl pattern. Where you have done a part you will have affected the waves at the root, so you can't type it accurately.
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Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:45 PM   #3
 
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I'm not sure about my properties. How can I find out? My hair tends to like protein but I can go overboard on it easily. I was using Dep gel and my hair got crispy after a few weeks of use.

Also, how should I part my hair? Sometimes I use my fingers or let it fall naturally but it tends to look odd when I do. I've been wondering about how to part my hair forever.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:26 PM   #4
 
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I'd say 2b. Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics <---- This is a good hair care intro site + help on figuring out properties.
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:21 PM   #5
 
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I'm not sure about my properties. How can I find out? My hair tends to like protein but I can go overboard on it easily. I was using Dep gel and my hair got crispy after a few weeks of use.

Also, how should I part my hair? Sometimes I use my fingers or let it fall naturally but it tends to look odd when I do. I've been wondering about how to part my hair forever.
Part it how you wish, I don't part at all because it kills curl at the roots, I just clip the roots for volume. All I said was that we can't accurately type your waves if you have parted (ie. used a comb).

Check out the link that WavyDaze posted, the stickies on the general haircare board and the newbies board.

I wonder if you are blaming the wrong ingredient: assuming I've found the right product there is table salt in the Dep gel which is very drying, no protein just amino acids that should wash away with every use not build up.
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Experimenting with: going back to basics
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:31 PM   #6
 
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I didn't know that about Dep gel! I thought the amino acids were protein. I was also cowashing with the TJ's Tea Tree Oil Condish which has protein (I think?) when my hair was feeling crunchy and odd.

Also, if I part my hair with my fingers (no comb) it still looks flat like that on top. If I don't part at all and scrunch/diffuse upside down and sideways it gets interesting.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:02 AM   #7
 
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I didn't know that about Dep gel! I thought the amino acids were protein. I was also cowashing with the TJ's Tea Tree Oil Condish which has protein (I think?) when my hair was feeling crunchy and odd.

Also, if I part my hair with my fingers (no comb) it still looks flat like that on top. If I don't part at all and scrunch/diffuse upside down and sideways it gets interesting.
Amino acids are the building blocks of protein and they are teeny tiny and don't have the same properties, equating them is like saying a pile of old bricks is the same as a house. Ditto whole proteins (large, cannot penetrate) behave differently to hydrolysed protein (small, can penetrate or stick to the surface).

If I have found the right list the TJ conditioner doesn't look to be ideal for co-washing, not rich in cleansing emollients/ emulsifiers (fatty alcohols nor cationic surfactants) so it's possible you were simply experiencing product build up. Also washing with protein can be different to conditioning or treating with protein - washing you focus on the roots which likely don't need protein, conditioning/ treating you focus on the lengths or ends which are more damaged.

Parting with fingers is similar to parting with a comb, don't part but let your hair fall naturally. I like mine best when it falls into almost a zig zag or diagonal. As you say scrunch, diffuse upside down to part dry then pin or clip off your face or slightly to one side for the best curl and root boost. AFAIK curly hair salons don't part the hair.
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG, growing out mechanical and chemical damage = breakage and very high porosity. Past armpit length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Experimenting with: going back to basics
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:53 PM   #8
 
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Ok, I picked up some Coconut V05 for Co-washing. I'm going to clarify my hair and use that with my LA Looks gel and hope for the best. Maybe I'll post pics if it looks any better and if anyone is interested lol
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