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Old 07-21-2013, 02:21 PM   #1
 
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Question Anyone else have fine hair with normal porosity?

Hey All!

I need some product help. I recently received my hair analysis and although I figured i had fine hair, I was super shocked to find out my hair was normal porosity with normal elasticity as I had thought my hair was pretty fried from a recent bad hair color that had to be fixed.

Anyhoo! Can any of you give me your routines with the products that you use if you have the same hair type as I do? I've done the CG for a while, but never had great results, but now knowing my hair type, I think i was using the wrong products and using too much of the right products as well.

I'm really hoping to get this right and have my hair looking better than the dry mess it currently looks like!

Thank you!
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:26 PM   #2
 
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Although i dont have any suggestions i am interested in the replies. I too was shocked when i got my hair profile and it said i had normal porosity. To be exact fine hair,normal porosity and low elastisity. The porosity was a shocker because i did the water test and my hair sat on top of the water and never sank. I thought this meant low porosity. now im confused as to which products to use. Have you tried the water test? Id be curious to see what your hair did. Sorry i couldnt help you but its nice to know im not alone in this confusion.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:37 PM   #3
 
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There are a few threads floating around on this (can't link from my phone). I have the same properties and basically I just make sure to use lots of protein, as much as possible. I've actually tried to overdo protein and have never been able to.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:40 PM   #4
 
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corrina i always felt the same way about protein and was excited to see your take on the gelatin treatment. I had never used more than one packet of gelatin. So i tried i 1x a week for 2 weeks and went to my hairdresser and she said my hair was super dry and i totally trust her shes been my hairdresser since i was little. S o now what should i do? I tend to get easily overmoisturized so how do i strike that balance? Also which moisturizers do you use and how often. Do you do the float test? when it stays on top of the water dosent it mean low porosity?
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:13 PM   #5
 
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The water test is notoriously inaccurate. A better test is to run your finger & thumb up a strand. If you feel bumps or ruffles, it's porous. If it is smooth or squeaks, its normal or low. Did u send in a section of the colored "fried" hair and it was still normal? Low porosity is hard to get really wet & holds onto water once it gets wet. It takes longer to dry than it should for normal porosity & your texture & density. I have fine, thin hair on the lower end of normal porosity. Use your judgement, if it feels dry it probably is. Over proteined hair will feel rough & tangly, won't curl as well. Over conditioned hair will feel overly soft & flyaway & won't hold a curl, tends to go limp & feel "mushy."
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:36 PM   #6
 
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Thanks for your info i will try running my fingers up and down it. quick question i do a heavy protein treatment followed by deep treatment but either way i get overproteined and then i do lots of moisture to bring my hair back and then i end up getting overmoisturized. How do you find that balance? I swear back when i didnt know anything about hair my hair looked better and i wasnt so obsessed and stressed out.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:22 PM   #7
 
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Do a lighter PT followed by a lighter hit of moisture. Or maybe try a light conditioner with protein in it. I like VO5 volumizing, the kiwi lime smell has hydrolyzed collagen in it which is a protein but it's also lightly moisturizing. Sometimes this is all the protein & moisture I need. My hair is easily weighed down too.
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Co-wash: VO5 Volumizing
Poo: Giovanni 50:50
RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal, Alba Coconut
LI: KCKT
PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone), Curls Rock Strong Hold Mousse
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:41 PM   #8
 
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wow, you guys really know your hair!

I just recently started using a protein treatment. I just realized that i don't know that it's cg though. Which protein treatment do you guys use? How do you know if you've over-proteined your hair?

I did do the strand test running my fingers and no bumps at all so i guess they were right on the porosity.

My hair does feel more tangly than it used to so maybe i should use a lighter conditioner when I PT. Are you supposed to clarify before you PT or DT?

Also, what kinda styling products do you guys use? I've tried mousse's and creams, but don't find that they provide much hold.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:52 PM   #9
 
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Until very recently, I've always given my hair hard hits of both protein and moisture. For example, as much as I try to incorporate protein every day, I also usually try to use cleansing conditioners or straight conditioner co-washing more frequently than low-poo (my hair density is thick, so my hair can handle some heavier moisture). I've also always used a fairly moisturizing RO and either left in about half of my RO or used a designated LI.
I also have to admit that I've become extremely lazy about PTs and DTs. If I do them once every other month I'm impressed with myself. But that's just my insane schedule. I actually use a gentle sulfate shampoo before my PT, then follow with DT. My favorite DT is One n' Only Argan Hydrating Mask, but I've been trying to use up a few others as well (I'm a hopeless product junkie). If I'm feeling extra tired, I'll keep DT in overnight and rinse in the morning.
Besides protein, I've been doing some recent experimenting with lighter products and with applying products to my hair at various stages between sopping wet and damp. So my routine is much more in flux now than I think it's been since my first month or two of CG, but I'm growing my hair out again and want to play around with the curly bob as much as possible while I can.
As far as products, my usual wash and go includes LI (or not rinsing out all of my RO), curl enhancer (cream or jelly), and gel. If I'm diffusing I will usually also add Curl Keeper to the mix. It's only been during the awful recent heat wave that I've started trying skipping gel. I'm getting better results than when I tried last summer, but it could be because I've been applying products to damp hair instead of sopping wet hair. I generally only use mousse one day a week (Sunday), because I sing in two church choirs and my hair dries significantly faster with mousse than with gel (my choir stands down in front on the side of the altar during the first Mass, so I need my hair dry by then and I'm usually running too late to diffuse for more than 5 minutes). My favorite mousse for definition and hold is TIGI Curlesque Strong Mousse, but I also recently purchased Bumble & Bumble Thickening Mousse and I'm really liking it so far.
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Modified CG since 11/5/11
CO-WASH: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo
CLARIFY: CHS Treatment Shampoo (used prior to PT/DT)
RO: DevaCare One Condition, Regis Olive Oil
LI: Cure Care, As I Am Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Biotera Gel, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, GVP Liquid Sculpting Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse
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