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Old 08-26-2013, 08:55 AM   #21
 
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You kind if have to go through the "All Recent" posts. FB is not archive friendly. Actually I find chats on there extremely difficult to follow.
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Thanks so much! It had my head spinning, i still have trouble on my own facebook page.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:00 PM   #23
 
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Sorry i just read this in one of his articles on his blog and had to ask you girls your opinions. He talks about parabens,silicones, and polymers being like plastic and coating the hair. I totally agree about the parabens and silicones and they are not a problem because i dont use them. Although im really curious about the polymers as many of my products have that in them. I dont know any thing about polymers can any of you shed some light, are they good or bad in your opinion? He also goes on to talk about how you have to do a detox to get them off your hair as water and shampooing is not enough to remove them.
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I tried out this method today, and I got really good results on one side of my head :P my left side came out well, but you can't really fully tell in the picture. My right side was looser that normal, and that is normally the waiver side. (Unrelated, but does anyone else have a wavier side?)
I forgot to do the rakey-scrunchy thing on my not so good side, so I think that made a difference. Have any wavies tried the Scott Musgrave way of styling wavy hair?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1377605457.524307.jpg
Has anyone else got any pictures of their hair done using this method??
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Sorry i just read this in one of his articles on his blog and had to ask you girls your opinions. He talks about parabens,silicones, and polymers being like plastic and coating the hair. I totally agree about the parabens and silicones and they are not a problem because i dont use them. Although im really curious about the polymers as many of my products have that in them. I dont know any thing about polymers can any of you shed some light, are they good or bad in your opinion? He also goes on to talk about how you have to do a detox to get them off your hair as water and shampooing is not enough to remove them.
There are many types of polymer AFAIK, and they aren't all labelled 'polymer'. Are you talking about polyquaterniums? It's a huge family, some are highly substantive and a PITA to remove/ can build up, some are very water soluble. We use water soluble co-polymers as holding agents in hair gel. IMO read the following and ask Scott himself what specific compounds he is referring to.

Amodimethicone and other Amine-functionalized Silicones
All About Another Hard-to-Pronounce Compound
A Cationic Styling Polymer With Novel Properties
Polyquaternium-59: Sun Protection for Your Curls
Polyquats as Conditioning Agents
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Wow. Distinct difference.
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Here is my first try with it. The entry in my hair journal app says: Washed with KC Come Clean and RO OneCare. Did everything upside down. Using MAP technique though. Put in pea size as filler SMCES and scrunched and then SSCEJ as sealer. Spiral curled my bangs. Might be too girlish. Diffused (much of it upside down. Smastered in some BRHG.

(One of my curliest days)

Have any wavies tried the Scott Musgrave way of styling wavy hair?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1377618627.002199.jpgHave any wavies tried the Scott Musgrave way of styling wavy hair?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1377618640.108754.jpg

Even some root curl because I did some upside down. First time ever for that

Have any wavies tried the Scott Musgrave way of styling wavy hair?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1377618690.120782.jpg
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Firefox thanks for your response. When I read the article all it said was polymers. I am finding out through reading his blog that he has some good info but he tends to be very spacey with some things. He is hard to read and understand because he is very detailed and descriptive on some things and not so much on others. I hope that makes sense.

Pyjamallama I tried this method yesterday and it turned out pretty good. My hair didnt turn out as wavy as it can be but what I noticed is its day two and the waves are still there that is HUGE for me I am curious to see how tommorow goes. Oh and I just left my hair down while sleeping. Im a 2a fine with very very weak waves. Did you find that it took longer than your normal routine? Please tell me what products you used and your teqnique ao i know if im doing it wright. I used fsg and devacurl light defining gel. Thanks
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:02 AM   #29
 
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Chupie it looks great! I cant do any thing upside down because my hair gets all wonky in the back, tell me whats your secret? Are you guys fingercombing with conditioner and then doing a final rinse or are you doing it after rinsing? after i do my final rinse my hair is plastered to my head how do you guys avoid this? I have tried to rinse upside down but then I get the wonkyness.
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Seriously that's the first time upside down worked for me. I did comb it out wet upside down with a shower comb and then rake squeeze scrunched each thing in per Scott's instructions.
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Here is my first try with it. The entry in my hair journal app says: Washed with KC Come Clean and RO OneCare. Did everything upside down. Using MAP technique though. Put in pea size as filler SMCES and scrunched and then SSCEJ as sealer. Spiral curled my bangs. Might be too girlish. Diffused (much of it upside down. Smastered in some BRHG.

(One of my curliest days)

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Even some root curl because I did some upside down. First time ever for that

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Your hair looks awesome!! I'm still not 100% what he means by squeezing... Not sure I've been doing the technique right.
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I'm just assuming he means put the product in your hands smooth it over the length or rake it in and then take your hand and and squeeze down the length of the shaft.
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I tried the squeezing and while it did promote clumping it also straightened out my waves.
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I'm just assuming he means put the product in your hands smooth it over the length or rake it in and then take your hand and and squeeze down the length of the shaft.
Thanks! Do you find the amount of product he recommends is enough? I tried using only a quarter size of gel like he suggests and I don't think it's enough frizz control for me.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:19 PM   #35
 
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I adjust it to what I think is enough. My waves straighten too but I scrunch them back in. They come right back. And I have a very weak wave pattern.
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Pyjamallama I tried this method yesterday and it turned out pretty good. My hair didnt turn out as wavy as it can be but what I noticed is its day two and the waves are still there that is HUGE for me I am curious to see how tommorow goes. Oh and I just left my hair down while sleeping. Im a 2a fine with very very weak waves. Did you find that it took longer than your normal routine? Please tell me what products you used and your teqnique ao i know if im doing it wright. I used fsg and devacurl light defining gel. Thanks
In the shower, I lowpooed with my schwartzcoph (that's not the right spelling sorry haha) kids sulfate free shampoo. Then I conditioned with SuperDrug naturals almond and coconut conditioner (it's definitely CG), brushed through because my hair was crazily knotty.
When finished I squeezed the excess water out of my hair, while still in the shower cubicle. Then I went to my room and squeezed water out again. I divided my hair into 2 sections, left and right. Next I used Umberto Gianini's scrunching jelly, squeezed in then scrunched in to my hair, section at a time. Then I did the same thing with some hard hold gel (l'oreal invisi-gel, extra hard hold which I think is CG but I'm not 100% on that)
I scrunched some water out with my microfibre towel, scrunched in a little bit more gel and then diffused: right, left, right, left.
After my first go with the diffuser at left, I saw that my hair was frizziner than normal, so I sprayed in my "leave in" (conditioner and water) so that might have made a difference.
I did lots of crazy, frizz-inducing stuff yesterday, and my curls stayed all day which was amazing
I like this method haha ^_^
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Thats awesome! I'm on day 3 and still have some wave and volume, this ones a keeper! After your final rinse how do you guys get the hair on top of your head thas plastered down loosened up away from the scalp with out disturbing the rest of your hair? I'v tried to use my fingers but i cant get them under the hair. If i use a pick to loosen it I end up having to comb all of my hair to make the top smooth into the bottom. How often do you guys wash your hair?
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Thats awesome! I'm on day 3 and still have some wave and volume, this ones a keeper! After your final rinse how do you guys get the hair on top of your head thas plastered down loosened up away from the scalp with out disturbing the rest of your hair? I'v tried to use my fingers but i cant get them under the hair. If i use a pick to loosen it I end up having to comb all of my hair to make the top smooth into the bottom. How often do you guys wash your hair?
I do my final rinse upside down and use a combo of upside down and right side up styling. I do martial arts and weight training, so I cleanse my hair pretty much daily.
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I agree. Get the top away from your head before any right side up styling. Sometimes just shower combing my top back away from the forehead right side up before infer out and apply stuff is plenty enough.
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Chupie I've been watching your videos on youtube and they are fatastic. Its nice to have some wavy videos that I can relate too. From watching and listening to you describe your hair It sounds very much like mine. One question how do you have your hair cut,do you go to a curly stylist,what do you ask for when you go to your stylist?
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