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Old 09-02-2013, 10:18 PM   #1
 
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Default Hair dry and breaking in the last 2-3 inches

Hi!

I stopped using shampoo in June of '12 and started exclusively co-washing, with a diluted vinegar rinse thrown in for good measure once a month or so. For about a year, my hair looked really good, but in the last few months it seems to be going back to how it was before I quit using shampoo. I actually used shampoo a couple weeks ago to strip my hair, in case it had a lot of buildup in it. That made my hair really soft, but didn't really help the waves and the dry, stringy appearance of the ends.

When I scrunch my wet hair with gel, it looks pretty good once it dries, except it's a bit stringy. As soon as I start separating the waves/curls with my fingers (gently, of course!), everything starts frizzing.

The hair strand seems to be porous...when I run my fingers up the hair, I can feel that it's not as smooth as when I go down.

My mom trims my hair regularly, yet it develops split ends and breaks very quickly. I'm in south central Texas, where it gets HOT and is often humid.

My usual conditioner is Suave Naturals tropical coconut, and occasionally I use Irish Spring bar soap because it doesn't have sulfates. For gel, I use LA Looks because it's cheap LOL.

My question is, would it help to do a warm coconut oil treatment on the last 4-5 inches of my hair occasionally? I don't have much to spend on hair products, unfortunately. How do you figure out whether your hair needs moisture/protein/whatever? I'm wanting to grow my hair out, and it's frustrating when it starts looking stringy/weird on the ends. It also grows VERY VERY slowly. I'd say it averages about 1/8" per month. At this rate it will take me 5 years to grow it as long as I wanted!

Thank you!
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:42 AM   #2
 
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If your hair grows that slowly then your ends will be older that the average person with hair of the same length. Hair naturally 'weathers', that is it gets damaged/ the protective fatty layer and cuticle wears away due to combing, brushing, washing, sunlight, rubbing on fabrics. Sadly it may simply be those ends are just too old and damaged to be salvaged, splits and breaks cannot be fixed.

Alkaline soap is damaging to hair, as bad as sulphates
Porosity and Curly Hair

You don't say what leave in conditioner you use, do you use the Suave for everything? Might be better to scrunch out any crunch from the gel not pull 'glued' hairs apart. My worry would be that might cause damage similar to hairspray
P&G Beauty & Grooming | Hair Spray Accumulation

IMO try coconut oil on the lengths as well as the ends. If you don't have coarse hair you might try a protein treatment for strengthening, the gelatin treatment is popular and inexpensive.

Finally do be very careful to protect your hair from sunlight, don't underestimate how damaging this is.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:32 AM   #3
 
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You don't mention using anything that's really providing moisture to your hair. You might want to add a rinse out, in addition to the leave in Firefox mentioned. Also doing DTs in addition to the PTs, if your hair can take the protein.

I'm one of the folks that started using soap to clean my hair when it was really popular on nc.com about five years ago. I use natural soap bars that are saponified oils and fragrance. My hair is low porosity and I get it cut every six weeks. Irish Spring is a deodorant soap. I looked up the ingredients

CTIVE INGREDIENT: TRICLOCARBAN.
OTHER INGREDIENTS: SOAP (SODIUM TALLOWATE, SODIUM COCOATE AND/OR SODIUM PALM
KERNELATE TYPES) WATER, STEARIC ACID (SKIN CONDITIONER) COCONUT AND/OR PALM
KERNEL ACD, GLYCERIN (SKIN CONDITIONER), FRAGRANCE, SODIUM CHLORIDE, PEG-12
POLYSORBATE 20, TITANIUM DIOXIDE, TETRASODIUM EDTA, BHT D&C GREEN NO. 8,
FD&C GREEN NO. 3.

There were a few articles about the soap and it's ability to clean. One guy wrote in red magic marker on his hand--and it cleaned it really well. The other thing that worries me is TRICLOCARBAN, which is antibacterial (or what causes it to be a deodorant soap.) It also has sodium chloride in it--salt, which can be drying. Even if you want to use soap to clean your hair, not sure that's one to pick.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:35 AM   #4
 
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I second leave in. I used it too far up at first but it's made a huge improvement in my ends.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:59 PM   #5
 
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Yes, I use Suave as my leave-in. I try to scrunch out the gel crunch, but my hair looks greasy and weird until I comb it a bit. BTW, I mix the gel with water, about a 2/1 ratio (more water than gel).

Good to know about the soap...YIKES! I won't use it again.

I don't think my hair is very coarse, it just looks and sometimes feels that way because of damage. :/ Underneath, it's usually very soft and silky. Do you have a link for a gelatin treatment? I'm looking forward to trying coconut oil on it...it works great on my skin, so I would hope it would work well on my hair too.

I had my mom chop 2-3 inches off the ends, and it looks SO much better now! I'd like to keep it as healthy as possible and try to grow it out. I'd love to grow it to my waist, but I don't think that is possible...so far, the longest it has gotten is just past my bra strap in the back.

Thank you to everyone who responded!

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If your hair grows that slowly then your ends will be older that the average person with hair of the same length. Hair naturally 'weathers', that is it gets damaged/ the protective fatty layer and cuticle wears away due to combing, brushing, washing, sunlight, rubbing on fabrics. Sadly it may simply be those ends are just too old and damaged to be salvaged, splits and breaks cannot be fixed.

Alkaline soap is damaging to hair, as bad as sulphates
Porosity and Curly Hair

You don't say what leave in conditioner you use, do you use the Suave for everything? Might be better to scrunch out any crunch from the gel not pull 'glued' hairs apart. My worry would be that might cause damage similar to hairspray
P&G Beauty & Grooming | Hair Spray Accumulation

IMO try coconut oil on the lengths as well as the ends. If you don't have coarse hair you might try a protein treatment for strengthening, the gelatin treatment is popular and inexpensive.

Finally do be very careful to protect your hair from sunlight, don't underestimate how damaging this is.
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Old 09-03-2013, 02:03 PM   #6
 
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Forgot to ask, what are some good leave-ins? What is a rinse-out? Conditioner? How do you know if your hair likes protein?
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Old 09-03-2013, 02:18 PM   #7
 
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I am having g great luck with a pea size or so amount if Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie.
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:25 PM   #8
 
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I am a homemade all natural soap maker, and I used soaps on my hair for the longest time. It did nothing but dry it out. Saponified oils are all some form of salt. Somehow, I was under the impression that they would be very nourishing to my hair. My hair ended up very straw-like on the ends and heat damage on top of it from my flat iron. I had to chop about 3" off my hair to get the dry damage off. I still make soap, but I definitely don't use it on my hair anymore, and I pin my hair up when I shower with it.

I personally like the Yes to.. line for leave ins - my favorite is the Blueberries for damaged hair. I mix a little of this into my spray bottle with filtered water and spray my hair every morning with it, on top of what I've left in my hair after my previous shower.
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