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Old 09-03-2013, 12:16 PM   #1
 
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hi! I need help with my hair because I have no clue where to start. after doing a bit of research here, I am guessing I have type 2a/2b hair. it is very thick, strands range from medium to thick, I dye it often. problem is is that my "curl" is mainly located in the back neck area of my hair, the front and top layer is fairly straight. I live in florida so very high humidity. I already no poo using baking soda and acv as a conditioner. I normally get it cut in layers so the curl can show through and some times get it thinned. can someone link me to the curly-girl method as I searched it one time and many ones come up. and recommend some beginner type products to enhance my curls? my hair can be very curly if I pin curl it, but the one time I tried a cg method it was kind stiff and blah. i'd appreciate any help before I turned 30ish it was almost as straight as could be only started curling as I got older, so I have no idea what im doing. here's a few pic of my hair in various stages.
this is how my hair looks most of the time washed, layered, naturally dried, no product.


this is a cg method try out (soory pic is huge )

this is wet, gelled, dried, hot curled, pin curled and sprayed with hairspray.
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Old 09-03-2013, 02:12 PM   #2
 
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I'm a fellow baby wearer, so I love that you're wearing your babe in 2 out of your 3 pics!

I live in Texas and we have very high humidity here too. The best resource for starting out with the curly girl method is the Curly Girl Handbook, at least that's where I started. Currently, I use Tresemme Naturals low sulfate shampoo and silicone free conditioner, and just a plain gel, like Suave ultra hold or something like that. BUT, I just got my hair cut today and I'm going to try the Deva (curly girl) low poo, one condition and ultra defining gel.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:11 PM   #3
 
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hahahaa! they were the only pics i could find that showed the back of my hair. are you in drama? because i actually came on here after reading about it in a thread. lol. thanks for the recommendations. id love to get my hair looking nice, instead of the thick frizzy mess it is 9 times out of 10.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:55 PM   #4
 
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This will help get you started:

Dorm Room Curly: All in One Guide for the Curly Girl Method

Pedaheh's Hair Blog: What do I need to start the Curly Girl method?

Have you done a final sulfate but silicone free shampoo?

Some popular stylers (gel and/or enhancers) are Aussie Instant Freeze, Ecostyler Krystal, Kinky Curly Curling Custard, Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Shea Moisture.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:23 AM   #5
 
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hi! I need help with my hair because I have no clue where to start. after doing a bit of research here, I am guessing I have type 2a/2b hair. it is very thick, strands range from medium to thick, I dye it often. problem is is that my "curl" is mainly located in the back neck area of my hair, the front and top layer is fairly straight. I live in florida so very high humidity. I already no poo using baking soda and acv as a conditioner. I normally get it cut in layers so the curl can show through and some times get it thinned. can someone link me to the curly-girl method as I searched it one time and many ones come up. and recommend some beginner type products to enhance my curls? my hair can be very curly if I pin curl it, but the one time I tried a cg method it was kind stiff and blah. i'd appreciate any help before I turned 30ish it was almost as straight as could be only started curling as I got older, so I have no idea what im doing. here's a few pic of my hair in various stages.
this is how my hair looks most of the time washed, layered, naturally dried, no product.
Welcome!

Baking soda is alkaline (pH ~8 ) so damaging to skin (pH ~5.5) and hair (pH ~4.5), dyed hair tends to be more porous so more prone to further damage. Sorry but vinegar is not a conditioner, it simply resets the pH and helps the cuticle lay flat (baking soda lifts it). Proper conditioner is needed to patch repair the damage caused by dying and prevent further damage from combing, rubbing on fabrics, washing, strands rubbing together, etc.

Curly Girl method is from a book by Lorraine Massey: you avoid damaging cleansing products such as sulphate surfactants, ideally various other anionic surfactants, anything alkaline such as soap. Then concentrating on conditioning/ hydrating/ moisturising the hair. Note that damaged or porous hair tends to take up and lose water too easily so part of getting the condition back is reducing the porosity so hair takes up less water. You can purchase the handbook itself, read the stickies on the newbies and general haircare boards here on NC, check out Waterlily716 on YouTube.
Curly Girl: The Handbook: Michele Bender, Lorraine Massey, Deborah Chiel: 9780761156789: Amazon.com: Books

Proven beneficial ingredients for colour treated or damaged hair include coconut oil, hydrolysed protein, ceramides, 18-MEA and panthenol. Damaged or porous hair can particularly look frizzy in high dews/ humidity, so often it's wise to avoid or limit potent humectants like glycerin, propylene glycol, honey and possibly aloe vera. You may find it takes some weeks or months for your hair to start looking better with Curly Girl, depends how damaged and porous it is.

Do be sure to only dye the roots not the lengths, and don't have your hair thinned again, that tends to discourage hairs from clumping/ encourages flyaways and frizz. Once you get settled with a routine you might find it worthwhile having a curly specialist haircut.

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Old 09-04-2013, 10:41 AM   #6
 
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If you're looking to clarify, you can get a clarifying shampoo to do what an acv rinse will do. In my experience an acv is very damaging to the hair. I did one & my hair was hard. My hair also changed colors (it looked red) & shed. Horrible experience. I found that a clarifying shampoo will do the same thing as an acv rinse with less damage to my hair.
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ahhh thanks ladies!! firefox I did not know I had read using bs and avc was a way to no poo and that no pooing could help my dandruff and curls. and thanks for linking the actual book I will find the newb thread and get the book. thank you
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