2b or 2b/2c mix?

Ive been calling my hair 2b, but some of the descriptions for curl pattern of 2c fit my hair too. Is it common to have a mix of two types? On freshly washed days, my hair forms several full ringlets, but they are easily lost if I comb my hair too many times (which I know, Im not supped to do with curls, but it gets so messy in the wind!). Id appreciate if someone can look at my profile pic and suggest whether or not I am all 2b. Thanks!
Or 3. Or more. It's fairly common.
thank you, I keep hearing this since Ive been researching. My OCD entirely objects. I am so keen on fitting into clean cut labels. haha.

Im still sort of confused, though, because there doesn't seem to be a consistent definition for either. One source bases it on hair texture alone (I have medium, no coarse hair like a 2c according to that source) but I have seen people with much finer hair that definitely looks 2c. Also, many of the pictures I see as examples vary between what looks like 2a and 3a all claiming to be 2c. Anyway, I suppose its not so important, but I don't want to feel silly with identifying as something I'm not do to misinformation.

Last edited by flightysprite; 03-29-2014 at 02:48 PM.
That's why we harp on properties above pattern. There are really more hair types than the categories allow for. Like 2 a/bs are supposed to be really fine but my hair is not fine. I'm pretty certain my texture is what "types" expect in a 1c (which can happen but I have an awful lot of wave for a 1c too. )
I always thought coding wavies by texture of hair instead the amount of curl/wave likes the 3s and 4s was strange, and the pictures go from least to most curly, so in my head 2a/b/c is based on amount of curl not hair width.
In the picture it looks 2b, from the way you describe it (you get ringlets also) I'd say 2b-c. It's exactly like my hair.

I don't know why on the main site they take hair width into consideration. Makes no sense to me.
fine - normal porosity*?- medium density - normal elasticity. Hard water. SoCal.
*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

iherb discount code: CFN646
Your hair looks so nice and non-frizzy. My hair looks like that (but frizzy). What's your routine?
fine - normal porosity*?- medium density - normal elasticity. Hard water. SoCal.
*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

iherb discount code: CFN646
Your hair looks so nice and non-frizzy. My hair looks like that (but frizzy). What's your routine?
Originally Posted by wavydaze
Ive sort of avoid sharing my routine because its not exactly recommended. I wash my hair way more than Im 'supposed to' because I go to the gym and I don't do any sissy work out, if Im not covered in sweat then it isn't a work out. I can't skip washes and, fortunately, I have hardly any reason to. My hair will get frizzy if I brush it too much or if it humid, but otherwise its always been nice to me. I am careful to use sulfate free shampoos. Currently I alternate Shea moisture and Curl Junkies Cleanser (not the CO cleanser). On non gym days (2 days a week) I do just a CO wash rather than skipping because I don't like second day hair. It always looks better after getting wet and air drying. I go heavy on the conditioner and I leave it on for the entire length of my shower. Also, in the winter when its dry I add a leave in conditioner so it won't be all staticy.

Anyway, I think Im going to confidently say Im a 2b. The only time my hair gets ringlets is if I really don't touch it at all I just can't do that for too long. These pictures are how my hair looks most often, after having been brushed a few times during the day. The first one was after a day out severe wind and I added product when I got home so it looks kinda stringy. The second is no product and minimally brushed.





Sometimes I do get carried away with the brushing and end up with 1c hair, then I smooth it with water many times to reduce the frizz that came from all the brushing:
Wow. You have amazing hair.
Yes, you have my hair, but much more cooperative! I also gets ringlets in the front and nape. Sometimes it just looks straight 2c, who knows!

It really is lovely. You also look like Jennifer Connely from your profile.

A lot of board members wash their hair every day. You're using very mild shampoos so that helps a lot IMO. While I think my hair would look better if I wet and styled every day I HATE having wet hair and don't have the time to dry every morning.

Do you know your hair properties? Also it seems like the dew points in your area might be favorable re:frizz.
fine - normal porosity*?- medium density - normal elasticity. Hard water. SoCal.
*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

iherb discount code: CFN646
Yes, you have my hair, but much more cooperative! I also gets ringlets in the front and nape. Sometimes it just looks straight 2c, who knows!

It really is lovely. You also look like Jennifer Connely from your profile.

A lot of board members wash their hair every day. You're using very mild shampoos so that helps a lot IMO. While I think my hair would look better if I wet and styled every day I HATE having wet hair and don't have the time to dry every morning.

Do you know your hair properties? Also it seems like the dew points in your area might be favorable re:frizz.
Originally Posted by wavydaze

Im actually thinking of changing my gym routine to avoid the extra washing. It has never seemed to damage my hair or dry it whatsoever but I am trying to grow it longer and having it wet all day would be annoying. Im thinking of a strict cardio weights separation (instead of HIIT or circuit type trainings) so that I don't have to wash on weight days when I wouldn't sweat so much. We'll see how that goes. When I start grad school next semester with a teaching appointment, I will need to look professional and not show up with soggy wet hair, lol.

I lived in north florida for a few years and it was very humid there. I actually really liked what the humidity did for my hair. It was always so much more curly and had more body. When I visited Seattle summer before last, same thing. My hair had more body, not more frizz. Where I am now it is very very dry so I get static easy and my hair is flatter, I hate that.

ETA - Ive never thought I look like any celebrities Ive been compared to (Julia Roberts and Alanis Morisette, the latter I think was because of my hair when it was longer, not my face though) but I think its just the angle of the picture in this case. I don't think my features are quite so dainty and elegant as Jennifers. lol.

Last edited by flightysprite; 04-05-2014 at 09:31 AM.
Oh I wouldn't do that. And I bet been with the gym routine you can use a gentle poo or no poo like CJ Daiky Fix, Jessicurl Gentle Cleasner or Deva No Poo at least part if the time or a watered down stronger poo with no damage.
Oh I wouldn't do that. And I bet been with the gym routine you can use a gentle poo or no poo like CJ Daiky Fix, Jessicurl Gentle Cleasner or Deva No Poo at least part if the time or a watered down stronger poo with no damage.
Originally Posted by chupie
ETA I wouldn't do that if you are happy with your gym routine.
I agree with Chupie I wouldn't change my gym routine unless you think you'll like your new routine better.

I do only weights now and find that I don't sweat that much... as much as doing cardio anyway.

It's curious you don't get frizz in humidity and I'm wondering if you have coarse hair. Mine is fine and turns into a "billowy cloud" in humidity. I hate it.
fine - normal porosity*?- medium density - normal elasticity. Hard water. SoCal.
*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

iherb discount code: CFN646
I agree with Chupie I wouldn't change my gym routine unless you think you'll like your new routine better.

I do only weights now and find that I don't sweat that much... as much as doing cardio anyway.

It's curious you don't get frizz in humidity and I'm wondering if you have coarse hair. Mine is fine and turns into a "billowy cloud" in humidity. I hate it.
Originally Posted by wavydaze
It does get frizzy sometimes when its humid. .usually if its a sudden change in climate, but living somewhere that humid or spending at least a few days there it seems my hair just gets used to it or something, I don't know. And even when it does look a bit frizzy, smoothing wet hands over the hair usually tames it for a while. My hair isn't coarse, I think its mostly medium, a few fine hairs in there, but they are hard to find.

I think thought that my hair isn't ever exempt from the "billowy cloud" you refer to. That "cloud" is what gives it the body I was praising before. Maybe cause my hair isn't fine enough to really go all cloudy on me, haha, but just enough? The under layers get poofy but the canopy stays mostly in control and covers up the mess below or something like that. oh well, anyway, I think Ive probably well overdone the subject of my hair here. lol. Thanks for all the advice. Im still undecided about the gym, but my bigger concern is wet hair all day when it gets longer. I can't have long hair and be a daily washer or CO washer at the same time. Ill have to work something out.
oh well, anyway, I think Ive probably well overdone the subject of my hair here.
Originally Posted by flightysprite
You're in good company to talk about hair!

Im still undecided about the gym, but my bigger concern is wet hair all day when it gets longer. I can't have long hair and be a daily washer or CO washer at the same time. Ill have to work something out.
Originally Posted by flightysprite
Something that has helped me recently a lot is the Curlformers soft hood bonnet. I just pop it on and I can read/check emails/whatever. It's been a time and patience saver.
fine - normal porosity*?- medium density - normal elasticity. Hard water. SoCal.
*Used to be low-porosity, but I lightened my hair 1-2 shades, so I may be normal-porosity now.

New climate! Current favorites:
Low-poo: CJ Gentle Cleansing Shampoo, Giovanni SaS
RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: CJ Repair Me, IAgirl's gelatine

Experimenting with: JC Confident Coils, JC Rockin Ringlets, CJ CIAB, gelatin gel

iherb discount code: CFN646

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