2b hair with no body??

Hi, I have 2b curls mixed with 3b on the under layers and very front pieces, and having no luck trying to bring some body into my hair!! For shampoo/condish I am using Shea Moisture, and I am using coconut oil and an anti-frizz spray (with cones). I wash my hair every morning and air dry, with some scrunching. I have tried blow drying, which works ok, but my hair is left dry with lots of frizz towards my roots . I haven't really noticed a lot of buildup, but could that be what it is? Btw my hair is bellybutton length and is one length all over. Any ideas of what I can do to fix this??
Hi, I have 2b curls mixed with 3b on the under layers and very front pieces, and having no luck trying to bring some body into my hair!! For shampoo/condish I am using Shea Moisture, and I am using coconut oil and an anti-frizz spray (with cones). I wash my hair every morning and air dry, with some scrunching. I have tried blow drying, which works ok, but my hair is left dry with lots of frizz towards my roots . I haven't really noticed a lot of buildup, but could that be what it is? Btw my hair is bellybutton length and is one length all over. Any ideas of what I can do to fix this??
Originally Posted by sabinajanay
It's possible you are weighing your hair down too much. You have to be careful with when and how much coconut oil you use. Also, the cones can possibly build up weighing your hair down more and more. Sometimes you need a good clarifying wash with a poo that is not heavy on oils like the SM is. Even just some diluted sulfate shampoo, to reboot. For a reboot I'd suggest clarify like that. Then condition (the SM is fine) and rinse completely out, squishing your hair as you rinse in a scrunching motion. Then once clear take just a little more condish and scrunch it in the ends. Towel squeeze/scrunch out the excess water. Try air drying or pixie diffuse to half dry and airdry the rest of the way. See if that improves things.
thanks!! I will try that once I take my shower!!
Them you can look at it and decide what to use next time for defining and such but I have found this helpful in seeing what's going on.
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My hair doesn't like Shea butter so I can't use most of the SM line. It's just too heavy for my hair. And I only use coconut oil once a week as a DT, which I co wash out. You may not have the same problem but its easy to test. I'd clarify by using a mild sulfate shampoo, then use a RO conditioner without heavy butters. A cheap one from Suave would be fine. Then scrunch in a light LI or mousse if you like to help clumping and diffuse dry. Diffusing always gives me much more body than air drying. As for the frizz at the roots, that can be smoothed down after with a tiny bit of hairspray or gel if you like. I always have frizz at the scalp, but I shed a ton of hair and have new baby hairs growing in constantly, thank goodness ( or I'd be bald in a month). If I can get some volume at the root from diffusing it helps hide it and I don't worry about it much. You could also try clipping the roots for some lift. With such long hair, root lift is tough without layers, at least for me. For me, to get body and volume, a certain amount of frizz is going to result but it tends to be minor and I can live with it.
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Experimenting w CG since Oct 2012

Current rotation:
cowash= TN
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DT = Coconut oil (love)
yeah, I'd tend to blame the frizz spray for building up and weighing you down.or maybe, just a less than ideal combination of products. SM, while great shampoo and conditioner for some of us, do not have the oomph to be getting those cones out of your hair. Sulfates would be a quick fix to start fresh.

Maybe you could try a lightweight leave-in instead of the spray? Or, if you want to keep using the spray, look for a shampoo or conditioner with coco betaine to keep cones from gunking you up.
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Last edited by geekrockgirl85; 07-13-2014 at 10:44 AM.
FYI Sheamoisture shampoos DO NOT break down silicones. (Look for low-poos with cocamidopropyl betaine or coco betaine in them if you want to continue using silicones!)

You most likely have a lot of silicone buildup that is contributing to the lack of body, and maybe some oil/butter buildup too.

It's a fork in the road right now for you, either go CG and cut out non-water-soluble cones or keep using cones if you want but get a different low-poo (some drugstore suggestions of low-poos that dissolve cones are Renpure Argan Oil, YestoCucumbers, Giovanni poos)

I've found that my hair has a lot more body since going CG. I tend to low-poo a lot, but I don't use silicones.

Do you know your porosity? I wouldn't really recommend SheaMoisture for low-porosity folks, but high-porosity folks tend to like it and for medium-porosity you'll just have to play and see. Just know that their products are very butter/oil heavy, and butter/oil heavy products work better to seal hair, and so work better as stylers on top of leave-in conditioner.

Leave-in conditioners can help give body as well.

What about hair width? Do you know whether you have fine, medium or coarse hair? Fine hair will need lots of protein. Coarse hair doesn't really need protein unless it is badly damaged. If you have fine hair, products with protein will help add body as well.

Like Chupie, I suggest you first clarify with a strong sulfate shampoo to get a clean slate, and start from there.

Hope this helps!
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Low-poo: Jason Mango bodywash, CeraVe Foaming
[/B]Cowash: Cure Care + water
RO: Cure Care, V05 KL, G SAS
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF, DE Shine & Refine, AB Strong Hold gel, SM C&S milk
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

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Last edited by wavydaze; 09-12-2014 at 11:10 AM. Reason: correction
I have taken your advice, and just washed with sulfate for once and now I am fully cg! my hair hasn't really improved much :/ Sadly I cannot diffuse because I lost my diffuser attachment >

is it absolutely unheard of to blow dry without the diffuser? Also what kind of heat protectant can I use that is under $20 and doesn't include cones!
my hair is medium width with high porosity--not caused by any sort of damage as a flat iron only once of twice a year!
Long hair can struggle with being weighed down by the length, as well as by products. You have been using an awful lot of heavy occlusives: shea butter, silicones, oils. You may need to clarify several times.

Frizz .... don't scrunch as your hair is drying, NO touching. Take water based stylers (gels/ mousses) and lightweight leave in conditioners closer to the roots.

Volume/ body: do some of your washing, styling or drying with head upside down. Don't over-emphasise heavy occlusives (oils, butters, waxes, silicones). Hydrolysed protein is good for curl boosting and volume. Use clips at the roots.
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You can purchase standalone diffuser attachments that fit most hairdryers.
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
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I have taken your advice, and just washed with sulfate for once and now I am fully cg! my hair hasn't really improved much :/ Sadly I cannot diffuse because I lost my diffuser attachment >

is it absolutely unheard of to blow dry without the diffuser? Also what kind of heat protectant can I use that is under $20 and doesn't include cones!
Originally Posted by sabinajanay

No, it's not unheard of, you just have to use the lowest setting and be careful not to blow your hair into frizz. When I traveled to FL in the spring and stayed with my daughter she didn't have a diffuser so I had to use her blow dryer like that.

In the meantime, if your hair's not too long, you could put a hair net over it to protect it from the air blast. Or, you can put a cotton sock over the end, maybe with a couple of little holes cut into it. I just saw that Amazon sells something very similar to that.

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