sulfate wash to clarify ?

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I've definitely come to realize I need a sulfate wash once in a while. My question is how often and what's a good gentle cleanser you have had luck w/? Ive used tresseme naturals for a while but even after diluting it, it makes my scalp dry and itchy. Of course the itchiness could be from build up.
How often is really based on when you feel you need it. If your hair has build up, is too oily, or waxy, then that might be your sign. If your scalp gets itchy, you can always either try sulfate shampoo then use your regular cleanser (the sulfate will get rid of build up and the low/no poo might help your scalp). Also aloe juice or gel can help moisturize your scalp without making it greasy.
3b, low porosity, high density, medium hair

Current Products:
  • Dr. Mercola Shampoo or diluted sulfate
  • Either Giovanni Tea Tree Conditioner or Nature's Gate Pomegranate Sunflower Conditioner
  • Gelatin as protein treatment
  • Flaxseed + gelatin as hair gel
Techniques: Scrunching + Plopping Overnight


As far as clarifying shampoos go, I use Suave's daily Clarifying - my hubby uses it all the time, and I did too before going mostly sulfate free (I clarify every 3-4 weeks depending on how things are feeling). For some reason it doesn't seem to leave my hair feeling especially stripped or dry, just clean.

A low-poo I've liked this summer that is sulfate free is Giovanni's Tea Tree one.
Smorgasbord of finer, porous 2a-3a; straight underlayer

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humectants outside of optimal dews, PVP, oils/butters, anything remotely comedogenic

poos: Giovanni TTT, Suave Clarifying
condishes: VO5 VMT, KLS; IonEC
stylers: FSG, 4NSBCC, Volumax, GFPC


Mod CG since 11/2012. My waves occasionally look best when combed out, so you can pry my combs from my cold, dead hands
I use Yes to Cucumbers (the sulfate free one). You don't need a sulfate to clarify, cocamidopropyl betaine or coco betaine has the same effect, but much less harsh. As far as sulfates, when I was using them I really enjoyed Neutrogena Anti-Residue shampoo. Haven't touched it in about 6 months.
2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Cond./ Giovanni TTTT
RO/LI: CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTCucs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC, SS CEJ
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
I've definitely come to realize I need a sulfate wash once in a while. My question is how often and what's a good gentle cleanser you have had luck w/? Ive used tresseme naturals for a while but even after diluting it, it makes my scalp dry and itchy. Of course the itchiness could be from build up.
Originally Posted by WaavyMadnesss
I do it when my hair acts weird (probably once/twice a month?) and I usually just dilute some cheap Suave clarifying poo.
When my hair is feeling a bit dirty, I like to use Suave juicy green apple shampoo. When I had been using it exclusively, it dried out my hair, but once in a while is fine.
mostly 2a/2b hair, fine, medium density, low porosity?
You might try doing your diluted sulfate wash, then following up with a cowash (as the 2nd part of the "wash, rinse, repeat" recommended by most shampoo manufacturers), then move to your rinse out conditioner and the rest of your normal routine. The cowash as the "repeat" step in wash, rinse, repeat would help restore some lost scalp moisture from using the sulfate shampoo.
CG since 11/2011
2c /3a F /Mii, low porosity

Autumn Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 KLS, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, L'Oreal Studio Clean gel, Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's as needed
Turns out my scalp needed a bit of conditioner. Thanks geek_chic and Everydaycurls and i thank the rest of you for your suggestions!
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Last edited by terric62; 08-15-2014 at 10:35 PM.
I always clarify with a diluted sulfate if my hair is being weird.
2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...ZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
I think I need to clarify also! I have been using the curly girl method for a month now.I have been using green apple suave naturals for my wash and tresseme for my conditioner. I was using herbal hessence gel but just this weekend I tried bouncy curl cream instead
Today when I cowashd,my hair felt gummy and almost kind of dry even after my conditioner.
At first I thought maybe the bouncy curl cream was to blame but now I am wondering if _after a month of cowashing if a clarifying wash will help?
I've also used olive oil on my halo from time to time. And just a little
Nubian heritage honey black seed leave in conditioner heat protectant.( I bought this and put just a little on my hair to try it out.
Those that clarify..........what do you think?
Originally Posted by terric62
I find with wavy hair, esecially those with weaker patterns, for me it depends, you dont want over clarify, but you dont want to over do it with the conditioner either. I use a non-sulfate shampoo every day, then co-wash every other day (meaning I just condition from the ears down every other day). Lately ive been clarifying with a diluted sulfate when my hair starts to get weird, but I do a co-wash right after so my scalp and hair doesnt get super dry. Hope this helps!
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Last edited by terric62; 08-15-2014 at 10:35 PM.
Honestly, my hair gets to be a weird texture anytime I put any kind of styling product in after a wash. I let it dry as is, then when its at least 90% dry I add some mousse for tad bit of volume and frizz control. You can try that if you want, I use herbal essences totally twisted, its pretty cheap and cg approved. A word of caution about the baking soda though, ive read some stuff by people online who were aparently chemists, apparently its very bad for your skin. I don't know how true that is but worth looking into.
terric62 - do you know what your hair properties are?

The Bouncy Creme looks to have protein in it, and a polyquat. Some people don't do well with one or the other or either (I'm not one of them, so I can only comment this far on it, maybe other polyquat or protein sensitive folks will chime in to see if your description matches their experiences). My hair gets gummy feeling when I use oils or waxy ingredients - so to me it sounds like your hair doesn't like one of the ingredients.

As for clarifying, I think I would personally find baking soda to be more damaging than sulfates. I know a lot of curlies swear by baking soda, but I'm not one of them. It's a harsh ingredient for all that it's "natural." I'll take the diluted sulfate, or a coco betaine cleanser, every time.
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Smorgasbord of finer, porous 2a-3a; straight underlayer

collagen
humectants outside of optimal dews, PVP, oils/butters, anything remotely comedogenic

poos: Giovanni TTT, Suave Clarifying
condishes: VO5 VMT, KLS; IonEC
stylers: FSG, 4NSBCC, Volumax, GFPC


Mod CG since 11/2012. My waves occasionally look best when combed out, so you can pry my combs from my cold, dead hands
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Last edited by terric62; 08-15-2014 at 10:35 PM.
I use borax instead of baking soda. I found it to distribute better through my hair and not as drying/frizzing as baking soda. When I need to clarify (which I need to do, good thing this thread reminded me), I use my shampoo bar. Too clarifying to use regularly, but using it lightly once in awhile helps get that gunk off my hair.

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