Is this a 2C thing or a medium texture hair thing or just me?

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I have this thing that drives me nuts because I've had crazy shedding before and so I watch my part line closely! But comparing myself to my daughter who has 2A hair and med-fine hair. I have 2C and med-coarse hair. But my part line, like you see more scalp at the sides of the part-line. I don't know if it's cuz I'm more curly, have less hair or have thicker hair, but just wondering if it has to do with the hair trying to go into clumps,but I don't really get curls until my ear-downwards. I show a close-up pic, just so you all know what I"m talking about, but she has scalp at the sides, but I have more. I kind of freak out about it, but don't know if it's just something with the curl or texture or just cuz I have less hair. I hope it's not a bad thing. She definitely has more hair than I do but it bugs cuz in the right lighting, you can see lots of scalp on me!
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can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
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2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
One more time
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2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
Can anyone see this pic?
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2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
I give up. I have never had a problem with posting pics on this site before. Sorry for those who wasted their time trying to help me out!!
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
I give up. I have never had a problem with posting pics on this site before. Sorry for those who wasted their time trying to help me out!!
Originally Posted by mamaherrera
I don't think the problem is on your end. The site was having an issue just the other day where no one could see attached images. It was fixed recently, but it looks like it just popped up again. I headed over to the Before/After for Wavies thread and can't see attached images there either, although embedded images show normally.
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Maybe if you all remember to check tomorrow and see if it's better.
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
Hi there mamaherrera!

I was unable to view your photo, but your post reminded me of some concerns I had a year ago, so I thought I'd share my experience.

First, remember you're your own worst critic. I would try to compare my hair shedding to all the heads on my family members, but no one could see the scalp/lower density I was concerned about on my head.

I brought it up to my stylist, & she couldn't notice lower density/scalp either.
But I had been parting my hair the same way for 5+ years, so my stylist suggested we move my part at my next trim.
After moving my part I did feel my part line hair looked much denser, but I'm still not sure if it was due to texture/pattern (I'm all mixed all over my head.) I had just been parting my hair the same way for a stupid long time, so there are a flibbitygibbity possible psychological & physical reasons that the change helped.

I did develop 1 physical theory of explanation ---> If we part our hair the same way everyday, we will be mechanically handling that area of hair more than the rest of our heads, so it could just be naturally be more prone to shedding.

Your idea about clumping did get me thinking though, but without your photo I just have a baseless guess. If you're part line looks less dense because of clumping, you may be parting through the middle of a cowlick. I don't cut hair, but I do know my stylist cuts around my cowlicks so that they have weight to "fall over themselves" to form clumps. I don't know the physics of it, but maybe another stylist could interpret the idea better.

I hope this helps.
thanks for sharing, I so wish you could see my pic!! I'm gonna try it one more time. but yes, it's hard when in my family, I seem to have lower density than all my family. My husband says it's because I have thicker strands, so they all (the rest of my fam) needs more strands (finer strands of theirs) to cover their head, and I can cover with less strands because they're thick. who knows if that's true. But it is hard when you worry about these stupid things, and no one else seems to understand. I'm glad they all think I'm fine. My husband says it's just a normal variance, it doesn't mean I'm losing my hair, I just have less strands. I'll try the pic one more time, but I appreciate you sharing your experience, and yes my part is always in the middle, hard to change it up!! the first pic (if they show up is me and the second one is my daughter, so you can see the difference!! )
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2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
PS--I just went and changed my part, and even just doing that made a difference somewhat, like the hair alongside it doesn't flatten down so much ( I still have less hair than my daughter/lower density) I know because my ponytail measures less, and she just has less scalp show no matter what), but it makes my part look less (FLAT), which when it is more flat, you see my scalp. Maybe in a few days I'll start up this thread (when pictures are working) and I'll show you what I mean. Just curious to know if it's similar to what you noticed. But yes, I've parted my hair down the middle since I have had bangs, which has been more than five years. Before bangs, everything went back, but now with the bangs, I have a cross on top of my head ( a part line for bangs, and a part line for my hair going to the sides).
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
Big ups for changing your part!! I'm glad your seeing some difference already.

I still can't see your photos, but what your describing seems to be in the same spirit of the shedding/thinning/flatness/bright scalp/wtf-is-this-part-line-of-demarcation emotions I was having last year.

I still can't stress enough that I was the only person who noticed it, like, my stylist/husband/sister/kids/nieces/anyone familiar with my hair looked at me like I was insane when I told them my concerns, so my suggestions may have been a mental>physical solution. From what I can see in your avatar pic you have a really beautiful full head of hair.

Moving the line improving the fullness/body along the part so that it looks like there's more density makes sense, because you're essentially combing hair in the opposite direction for the first time in years. After years of training my hair bounces back if I try to part/comb it in another direction too.

I also think changing my part helped me, personally, just cause I know how much I manipulate my part line more than the rest of my canopy. I get the worst buildup along my part line, so I massage/scrub/use product/comb there the most. I just makes sense that after years of... special/obsessive attention that part of my hair was tired looking.
Mod CG since '06, "full" CG since '13

2c/2b/3a/4? ---> wavy kinky hair
High density, very coarse, mostly low porosity with some normal porosity in the canopy

Clarifier - Moroccan oil clarifying shampoo
Cleanser/Cowash - Dermorganic shampoo / KMF everyday conditioner
RO & LI - CJ smoothing conditioner, JC deep conditioner, JC too Shea
Styler - Beautiful Curls defining gel, JC confidence coils
Curl enhancer - JC rockin ringlets, Josie Maran bohemian waves argan hair mist
Thanks, I'm glad I found someone else going through this stuff like me. Even styling now curly, it's caused me some stress because when I brushed all the time, my hair was big, but now it's in clumps (even without gel/conditioner/etc) so my volume has gone down overall, and Im can't be 100% sure if it's gone down in volume JUST from the clumps/styling new or other things. Like you said, it's somewhat mental, like anorexia I would say. My husband and parents say it's the same, but if you look closely enough like me, you see everything, and everything bugs. I'll try once more with the pics, but thanks again. And what if you put a pic up of your part, does it work for you?
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2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
I'll try to upload again in a few days. I'm kind of technologically challenged & failing to work it now.

I definitely believe in hair dysmorphia! How else could me & countless women & men everywhere be noticing their hair thinning before everyone else around them?
I know we should be less harsh on ourselves, but I still catch myself looking in the mirror in my "bad" light judging my bright scalp. I know we can't just avoid the mirror all the time, so when you do need to check up on it try to remember to look for all the things you do like about your hair. Like effortless clumping, that's so awesome!
Mod CG since '06, "full" CG since '13

2c/2b/3a/4? ---> wavy kinky hair
High density, very coarse, mostly low porosity with some normal porosity in the canopy

Clarifier - Moroccan oil clarifying shampoo
Cleanser/Cowash - Dermorganic shampoo / KMF everyday conditioner
RO & LI - CJ smoothing conditioner, JC deep conditioner, JC too Shea
Styler - Beautiful Curls defining gel, JC confidence coils
Curl enhancer - JC rockin ringlets, Josie Maran bohemian waves argan hair mist
Thanks for replying and do keep checking back, and I"ll keep trying to upload my pics. Everytime I reply. Is it a mental thing?? Mine started when I had a big shed that lasted for like three years. That's when I started noticing all my hair defects: (like the fact that I have temples that go back farther kind of like men) But then I looked at pics and noticed I've been like that since a teenager, but just noticing it now. Then I started noticing more and more things, about the hairs I shed, about my scalp, etc. and my husband says I'm the same, but I can't get past it. He threatens to throw all our mirrors out, maybe it would be a good thing. Plus now I'm getting white hairs (i'm 34 by the way) and so that draws me into my hair more now too. Then after two years of wearing my hair curly, I go back to my hometown and my niece says "did you lose all your hair, where did your volume go?" My husband again says, it's because I used to brush it out and have it like a bush. but it's hard. . . . again like I said, it's hard.
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2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
Whether it's mental or not, guess what, my hair is thinner near the temples too, it's not just a man thing, we're totally normal, I'm a woman, you're a woman, & this is the way our hair naturally grows out of our heads.

My baseless guess (since I still can't work pics lol!) is that your curl formation is popping off beautifully, so now you (& maybe your niece) compare it to your former volume & it's creating the illusion of having less density. But remember, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I have heard of some people's hair thinning from cowashing routines. Did you notice this change when went CG?
Mod CG since '06, "full" CG since '13

2c/2b/3a/4? ---> wavy kinky hair
High density, very coarse, mostly low porosity with some normal porosity in the canopy

Clarifier - Moroccan oil clarifying shampoo
Cleanser/Cowash - Dermorganic shampoo / KMF everyday conditioner
RO & LI - CJ smoothing conditioner, JC deep conditioner, JC too Shea
Styler - Beautiful Curls defining gel, JC confidence coils
Curl enhancer - JC rockin ringlets, Josie Maran bohemian waves argan hair mist
I noticed lots of shedding after having my third baby, but it lasted for way too long. ANd then when I went to a dermatolgoist (kind of flippant guy and rude) and he told me I had lost 50% in some areas, omg, then I started noticing everything, and I had never noticed "thin" areas, or anything like that, I was just concerned about the shedding. My husband does say that I've always had lower density (normal density by ponytail measure, it's a 3.7 inches pony) but that my poofy hair (brushing) gave me an illusion of having lots of hair in my earlier years. But I do not do cowashing, because I will shed lots!
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
Photos still bunk on my end.

I think thinning for me is more mental than physical. I'm 26 & I know my hair is naturally less dense than 5 years ago, but I felt real results of my solution to physically "correct" it from me mentally accepting that I'd done all that I can do for my hair. I still angle my head & look in my "bad" light every time I wash my hands at the bathroom sink, but I don't linger at the mirror so long anymore.

Dermatologists can really be the worst sometimes, maybe not the worst, but really really insensitive. I had major shedding (1) after I stopped breast feeding & then again (2) when I was finishing earning my degree & writing my thesis. My derm's advice was (1) keep getting pregnant & breast feeding & (2) don't go into academia/ a writing demanding career. I probably don't need to say this, but yes this derm was a man, & no I didn't see him again after that.

If the part move isn't giving you much more volume/higher looking density, you might want to try using a light curl activator/volume enhancer on your canopy & around your part. I really like the Josie Maran spray in my signature, but if you don't like salts (my hair can't really handle them in autumn & winter,) Beautiful Curls makes a really nice moisturizing one, I think it's called curl reviving tonic.

I really hope this info helps without me having any visual aids.
Mod CG since '06, "full" CG since '13

2c/2b/3a/4? ---> wavy kinky hair
High density, very coarse, mostly low porosity with some normal porosity in the canopy

Clarifier - Moroccan oil clarifying shampoo
Cleanser/Cowash - Dermorganic shampoo / KMF everyday conditioner
RO & LI - CJ smoothing conditioner, JC deep conditioner, JC too Shea
Styler - Beautiful Curls defining gel, JC confidence coils
Curl enhancer - JC rockin ringlets, Josie Maran bohemian waves argan hair mist
I do really appreciate you sharing your experience, you sound very similar to me. I wonder if it's stress that is keeping our density a little less than when we were young?? Yes I have decided to never go back to a dermatologist because they don't even take the time to sincerely look and think and if they don't know you from five years ago, what can they compare your density to right?? Yes, I shed nothing while pregnant, so it's definitely a hormone thing, but for me, also a sleep problem thing, I sleep from 4 AM to 11 AM, not normal hours. But you are right, everyone else says I have plenty of hair but they don't see the little things I do. I hope we can keep in touch and share pics ONE day, when this site gets it back together!! For me, I FEEL like I don't have the same density as 8 years ago, but the pictures show it's very similar. So it's so hard to know, because I "remember" feeling my hair heavier, but when you're young and don't pay attention to those things like now, I ask myself, "do I really remember what my hair felt like 8 years ago, probably not!"so you never got an answer either as to whether your hair is less for you now compared to five years ago??? Obviously you don't shed terribly now, so did it thicken back up?? does it keep getting worse, or has it maintained for you now?? I go a lot by my ponytail measurement!
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
I was very obsessed with my part being wider also. I still am but I try to keep it to the back of my mind and not full-on panic. I get my roots done every 5-6 weeks by the same person for 25 years and I have to trust her when she says no it's not thinning. I think what I'm noticing it that before my hair was soooooo dry it gave the illusion of a lot of volume and also seemed course but like a lot of 2C's I wasn't course but medium. So my hair was an illusion to me but now that I'm seeing my real hair. To keep my demons at bay I took a picture of my part and measured it. It hasn't changed even though I think it has. I'm not sure if I'm being an enabler but I do share your pain. I forgot to add that I'm going to be tested for PCOS later but I'm pretty sure it's going to positive.
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