Color Treated Newbie with Questions!

Hello all!

I've been stalking this site for info for a few weeks now. I'm not exactly a curly per se, as I've had straight-ish/90% wavy hair all my life so 2A, but I hope I can get some answers to my questions anyway as my situation is a little different.

About 2 weeks ago, I went in for my 3rd round of ombre - which this time involved very heavy balayage. I'm a dark brown with super super thick, also almost waist length long hair so I went with my usual dark brown to blonde ombre. I go in about 2x a year (since late 2013) to dye and this time I got pink tips on top of my blonde which my hairdresser said she had to take me super blonde to make them stick. She also said the 3rd time is when it'll be very damaged (obvs) since it's been that many times. Unfortunately, it's really REALLY done damage to my hair (like bits of pink strands falling out from brushing, my ends kinda look/feel like straw, ombre parts getting easily tangled/knotted badly, waves are wavier, etc) so I decided to try cowashing/CG-ish. I don't know if it's necessarily for me since I'm not technically a curly, but I want to do better for my wavy hair.

I'm not sure about my porosity since I know the water test is unreliable. I don't blow dry, straighten, hairspray, gel or really any kind of styling ever. All I do is air dry and out the door I'm done. So far I've picked up:

- As I Am cowashing conditioner
- Tresemme Naturals conditioner
- Shea Moisture DT masque
- Shea Moisture Superfruit 10 in 1 shampoo
- Argan Oil
- Joico sulfate-free purple shampoo (just for the ombre)

I got KCKT, but haven't used it yet. My problems post-balayage are I'm really worried about the state of my hair. I've never had all these problems before. I wash my hair every 2 days (also my area is dry with a current 33 dew point), but just brushing my wet hair is making only pink strands get stuck in my brush.

With cowashing, I'm confused on if by deciding on how often I should clean, is it how long I can last before my hair either goes limp or gets too oily to stand it? Can you use a DT as a LI? RO can also be an LI so that's rinsing then adding it back to your hair? Since my hair is color treated, but I also have non-color bangs, should I only be no-pooing my scalp and using my purple shampoo on my ombre as usual? Also I guess I just have to use SM for my bangs which seems weird to only use it for that, but they get oily after 2 days guaranteed. I'm just not sure what the proper technical terms for my problems are that I should be trying to fix and how to fix them.

Pretty much any advice or questions to figure my hair life out are welcome because I feel super lost.

Last edited by indiglow; 03-17-2015 at 12:15 AM.
Hi there Indiglow! I'm no expert, but I have always heard that after you get your hair chemically treated, especially with bleach, you need to add protein back into your hair because the chemicals essentially blow holes in your cuticle. Those holes will contribute to dryness and breakage. I would suggest to either purchase a protein treatment or look in the recipes sections and make a DIY protein treatment and focus that on your ends. Don't overdo it on the protein because that can also be bad for your hair. I color my hair at home and try to do a protein treatment followed by deep conditioning treatment once a week. You should not leave a deep conditioner in your hair as a leave in, but using a regular rinse out and then sealing it with oil (coconut, argan, grapeseed, and jojoba are my faves) will help lock that moisture in.
medium-high density, normal porosity/ high at ends, medium width, normal elasticity, color-treated, unsure of curl type
CW: suave naturals\ as I am coconut cowash
LP: giavanni tttt
RO: gvp cb
LI: gvp cb & sm c&s milk or KCKT
Styler: econatural curling cocktail or KCCC
Gel: LALSG \ LOTD aloe gel
SOTC: grapeseed oil \ argan oil
^^^ I agree. Sally's ION Effective Care Treatment is sold in single use packs and are on sale right now for 99 cents so you can try that out. Also, because your ends are damaged brushing your hair with a brush while wet will only encourage breakage. For detangling I highly recommend using a wide tooth comb in the shower with your hair loaded up with conditioner. Breakage is only going to exacerbate your problems.

Honsetly, your hair might surprise you and turn out to have a lot more wave than you thought if you get it properly moisturized! Diane Mary has platinum blonde color treated hair and so she has a lot of product recommendations and techniques that you might find very useful. She also swears by doing protein and deep treatments as being the thing that saves her hair.

I use SheaMoisture Tahitian Noni & Monoi Smooth & Repair Weekly Treatment because it is a pretty mild protein (I have not colored my hair in 2 years). I spritz my hair with water and apply in sections until my whole head is saturated, then I loosely secure and put a shower cap on (it helps trap in heat and make the product work better). I let it sit for an hour and then rinse it out. I follow up with a moisture deep treatment mask apply the same way and let it sit for another hour. Then wash, condition and style as normal.
Began: February 25, 2015 2B, Fine, Normal Porosity/Elesticity, Medium Density, Low Dew

Cleanse: Giovanni Tea Tree Invigorating Shampoo
CO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
RO: Shea Moisture Raw Shea Butter Restorative
LI: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Styling: Living Proof No Frizz styling cream, Giovanni L.A. Strong Hold Gel (small amount diluted with water), plopping, pixiecurl diffuse

: KCCC (seriously I have never hated a styling product more!)
: Coconut Oil
Very good advice. I will only add it *could* be those ends are so damaged, nothing but trimming will do, but yeah, unless you have coarse hair, I'd suggest some real protein treatments followed by deep moisture treatments especially on the ends of your hair. And NO BRUSHING those. In this state you are just snapping everything off. You can give it a bit but the less length you want to give up, the sooner you might trim that off. Damage like that is only going to travel up if it is too bad and it sounds pretty bad. So the sooner you stop it the more length you will retain.
2a medium porous, You can see my wavy tutorials here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...ZNxhBHSXAW40OQ and my wavy blog is The Wavy Nation http://wavynation.wordpress.com
Chupie is right. :-\ Sometimes trimming off those ends is the only way to save the health of the rest of the hair!

Science-y Hair Blog has a great article on deep treatments and includes porosity of bleached hair: Check it out here!
Began: February 25, 2015 2B, Fine, Normal Porosity/Elesticity, Medium Density, Low Dew

Cleanse: Giovanni Tea Tree Invigorating Shampoo
CO: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
RO: Shea Moisture Raw Shea Butter Restorative
LI: Tresemme Naturals Moisture
Styling: Living Proof No Frizz styling cream, Giovanni L.A. Strong Hold Gel (small amount diluted with water), plopping, pixiecurl diffuse

: KCCC (seriously I have never hated a styling product more!)
: Coconut Oil
^^^ I agree. Sally's ION Effective Care Treatment is sold in single use packs and are on sale right now for 99 cents so you can try that out. Also, because your ends are damaged brushing your hair with a brush while wet will only encourage breakage. For detangling I highly recommend using a wide tooth comb in the shower with your hair loaded up with conditioner. Breakage is only going to exacerbate your problems.

Honsetly, your hair might surprise you and turn out to have a lot more wave than you thought if you get it properly moisturized! Diane Mary has platinum blonde color treated hair and so she has a lot of product recommendations and techniques that you might find very useful. She also swears by doing protein and deep treatments as being the thing that saves her hair.

I use SheaMoisture Tahitian Noni & Monoi Smooth & Repair Weekly Treatment because it is a pretty mild protein (I have not colored my hair in 2 years). I spritz my hair with water and apply in sections until my whole head is saturated, then I loosely secure and put a shower cap on (it helps trap in heat and make the product work better). I let it sit for an hour and then rinse it out. I follow up with a moisture deep treatment mask apply the same way and let it sit for another hour. Then wash, condition and style as normal.
Originally Posted by malobee
I agree with you about Diane Mary and her articles, I wish she was still doing youtube videos, because those were amazing!!
2B-2C Density-Medium/High Width-medium Length-Medium

LoPoo: Onesta Hydrating Shampoo
CoWash: LP Curl Conditioning Wash
ROs: Onesta Hydrating Conditioner, LP Curl Detangling Rinse
Weekly DC: LP Restore Mask Treatment
Leave in: LP Restore Targeted Repair Cream
Stylers: (in application order): LP Prime Style Extender Cream, LI, LP Curl Defining Style Cream, LP No Frizz Weightless Styling Spray, LP PHD Night Cap
Sealer: Body Shop Olive Oil/Body Shop Argan Oil/Josie Maran Argan Oil
Thanks for all the advice!

As it is, I am definitely wavy and my hairdresser told me it's because of that texture that my hair looks dry/is coarse. Whether both are truly the case or not (I usually like second opinions, etc.), I'm not sure, but it's been coarse after balayage for sure.

I was wondering what does sealing mean exactly? Like how can you tell what your hair likes? In terms of more oil-based products or...?

Last edited by indiglow; 03-20-2015 at 09:00 PM.

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