The woes of a Wavie.

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Bump for this wonderful thread.

I love how sometimes people don't get the gist of it and post convoluted routines here!
This thread makes me feel better.
Bumping... This post was super helpful..

Any other wavies out there do no products like eastcoastwaves mentioned at the beginning? Or just a leave in?
I'm another one who spent years thinking they had slightly wavy poofy hair, looking for a really simple routine. Honestly in my case I think that will partly come as the damage finishes growing out, I think many of us underestimate how much harm we have done in 'normal' daily life.

My hair was breaking in certain places and very porous yet I never saw a split end - all I was doing was sulphate shampoo, silicone conditioner, ponytail 24/7 (snag free band), dark permanent box dye according to the instructions, twirling my ponytail in my fingers. No heat styling, no crazy bleaching, no BKTs, no sun worshipping. Two years on the new hair (which is still dyed) is much more manageable than the old. Someone on Long Hair Community has a demarcation line from quitting sulphate shampoo, others have demarcation from when they quit heat styling,

I've learned with both my skin and my hair it's easier, quicker and cheaper not to dry/ strip/ damage in the first place than it is to try to repair or remoisturise. So a lot of the time I do use just leave in conditioner and air dry, which doesn't look great but gel seems really drying. I only use a sulphate free shampoo when I absolutely have to, won't even let the hairdresser use it I rock up with wet hair (which saves money!).

Last edited by Firefox7275; 05-02-2013 at 05:10 AM.
So a lot of the time I do use just leave in conditioner and air dry, which doesn't look great but gel seems really drying.
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Gel shouldn't dry your hair out if it contains good ingredients. I haven't had any problems w/ CG gels in terms of dryness.
Bumping... This post was super helpful..

Any other wavies out there do no products like eastcoastwaves mentioned at the beginning? Or just a leave in?
Originally Posted by kaykre
I've had some good luck w/ conditioner-only styling. I've been using the Alba Botanica Leave-in.

I'm also reporting in as a fluffy, frizzy wavy. I'm kind of confused about what my "natural" curl pattern is because I always thought it was a wavy but now that I'm CG it's spiraling and whatnot.

Like the OP I hate the fact that I can't touch my hair etc. when I "style it CG." It seems higher maintenance, all the while I thought this was going to be less or equal maintenance to my pre-CG routine (wash and go).

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love how my hair feels now... smooth, soft, moisturized. I don't have dry hair anymore! Frizz is waaaaay down! I actually know what a protein treatment is... undoubtedly my hair is in better condition, and it looks it and feels it. Less split ends too!

But I'm also losing a ton of volume. When my pre-CG hair wasn't looking like a band from the 70's (aka not acceptable for work) I had beach waves! It had a certain vavoom to it that now my more wavy/sad curly hair doesn't have. It's so flat against my had... just kinda there. I think it's a 2b thing.

If it were more curly, and I got some root curl, and/or more dense I think this would work out better... but I don't think I'll ever get there.

The maintenance thing is an issue. Now I'm even considering buying a dyer for volume! I always used to air dry... I feel like I'm taking steps backwards now that I'm CG. I've also done so much reading. I love how much more informed I am... but really I just want to get to a state where I use 1 or 2 styling products that work consistently and be on my way, no more reading, trying new things, experimenting, nothing. Sometimes I think CG... ain't nobody got time for that.
What I hate about having wavy hair is that my hair tends to fall flat, unlike type 3 or 4 hair that tends to have more volume at the crown. I also need to wash my hair every day, because if I don't, my waves will get limp and frizzy. If I use product to try to make the frizz go away, I run the risk of making my hair too heavy which would make the limpness even worse. I actually didn't wash my hair tonight because I took my shower late and wouldn't have time to let my hair dry, so I guess I'll need to wear it in a ponytail tomorrow.
mostly 2a/2b hair, fine, medium density, low porosity?
So a lot of the time I do use just leave in conditioner and air dry, which doesn't look great but gel seems really drying.
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Gel shouldn't dry your hair out if it contains good ingredients. I haven't had any problems w/ CG gels in terms of dryness.
Originally Posted by PomegranateCurl
Thanks for your reply.

A basic gel is just a gel with holding agents, it doesn't contain good ingredients. I have a couple of pricier stylers that are rich in humectants (propylene glycol) so much less/ not drying but they are next to useless for hold. I think I may try making an Ecostyler custard at some point, my hair likes oils.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Yeah PomegranateCurl, I agree 100%.

I had been hunting for some new products since I got a promotion/raise and had been using non-natural (ie silicones&sulfates) products that weren't doing what I hoped and stumbled on the book. I have always known my hair was wavy when wet but never knew how to keep it that way, I have worked hard to keep my hair healthy for years, way before I found CG. Unfortunately nothing I've learned here has helped much. It seems the only way to keep my hair wavy is to load it up with products, do special styling techniques while wet and then diffuse, and that only lasts half a day, then I have rough, puffy or flat, limp hair depending on the dews. I have air dried my entire life because blow drying made my hair poof to 3 times its size, now I've figured out how to blow dry my hair with minimal poof but I'm also damaging it with the heat!

I'm not saying I'm giving up or gonna stop trying stylers but I'm getting frustrated. I started this because I wanted my hair to look and feel better and to be heathy, but it seems I have to decide between soft, mostly straight hair that I don't like to look at and end up wearing up most of the time (which leads to breakage) or moderately wavy (2B) sticky, rough hair that I can't touch and that won't last the whole day unless I use a harder hold gel then any I've tried so far. I too have gotten good results and thought I had hit a magic combo only to have the same products fail miserably the next several times I use them.

Maybe it's because I'm wavy not curly, maybe its because most wavies aren't as dry as curlies, maybe its just because I've mostly taken good care of my hair, but I don't think CG has helped me that much, its just made me frustrated that I can't get my hair to look good and feel good and be wavy at the same time.

I started out saying I wouldn't use stylers because I want to touch my hair, I want it to be soft and silky, but every day I woke up with limp, barely wavy hair was one more reason to try something else. I've tried lots of jellies and a few gels and mousses now and I'm still pretty much where I was when I started.

I think I need to accept that whatever degree of waviness I manage to achieve will be gone by lunch time. That my hair will still frizz when the weather and its mood dictates and I will still have to wear it up in order to calm and smooth it. I will look for a protein rich condish or no-hold styler to use as a leave-in that'll encourage my waves yet keep my hair soft, smooth and happy. I may still do the whole styling thing occasionally but right now I'm tired, I want to look like I 'did' my hair and I care how I look but this is too much work for mediocre results that are determined more by the weather than by anything I do or don't do.

So I guess my PJ will still be hunting regardless, at least I know this is mostly good for my hair and have learned a ton about ingredients. Always look on the bright side of life, as Monty Python says. (I don't know why you can't see his teeth, they're HUGE!!)
2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
So, on Sundays I volunteer at my church as a greeter. This past Sunday it was alternating sprinkling and misting, and I was helping people out of their cars at the front door.

I have a pin on my funny Pinterest board that says "Thank you, rain. I always wanted to look like the Lion King." That's exactly what I looked like on Sunday. People walked up to me, and I could see their eyes get big as they looked at my hair.

My hair has grown just past my shoulders now. Like many of you, I've tried all sorts of things, and it's frustrating when they either weigh my hair down or make it untouchable. Or the co-washes make my hair greasy after a few days. I am trying to take care of my hair as it grows out, but it's really hard to find things that make me happy and my hair happy.

I'm not totally CG anymore. I figure I can minimize the damage, but sometimes I blow dry my hair. A few weeks ago, I used a curling iron (and my hair looked fantastic). I mostly co-wash, with a low poo every couple of weeks. I try not to pull on it, but the urge to either cut it back off to a pixie or just keep it up all the time is overwhelming.
Averages out at 2b, ranges from 1c to 3a, very fine
Mane 'n Tail co-wash + leave-in
Clarifying shampoo every few weeks
Lavender Allergy

Last edited by Roswenthe; 05-07-2013 at 06:45 AM.
I keep getting urges to cut mine short again too. I told myself I can reevaluate on my bday in Nov.
Bumping... This post was super helpful..

Any other wavies out there do no products like eastcoastwaves mentioned at the beginning? Or just a leave in?
Originally Posted by kaykre
No products here anymore. I decided that it just isn't worth it. I don't have thick hair and while the individual clumpy wavy curls look nice when given the right product, my hair is too thin and I lose all volume and show way too much air between clumps. And the routine was too crazy for me to want to do it everyday--wash, product, diffuser. No way. I need wash n go. So I do now. And I prefer it that way. I feel much more free. So free, I even did a thread on it.
Closet wavy...trying to decide if I want to come out.
Yeah PomegranateCurl, I agree 100%.

I had been hunting for some new products since I got a promotion/raise and had been using non-natural (ie silicones&sulfates) products that weren't doing what I hoped and stumbled on the book. I have always known my hair was wavy when wet but never knew how to keep it that way, I have worked hard to keep my hair healthy for years, way before I found CG. Unfortunately nothing I've learned here has helped much. It seems the only way to keep my hair wavy is to load it up with products, do special styling techniques while wet and then diffuse, and that only lasts half a day, then I have rough, puffy or flat, limp hair depending on the dews. I have air dried my entire life because blow drying made my hair poof to 3 times its size, now I've figured out how to blow dry my hair with minimal poof but I'm also damaging it with the heat!

I'm not saying I'm giving up or gonna stop trying stylers but I'm getting frustrated. I started this because I wanted my hair to look and feel better and to be heathy, but it seems I have to decide between soft, mostly straight hair that I don't like to look at and end up wearing up most of the time (which leads to breakage) or moderately wavy (2B) sticky, rough hair that I can't touch and that won't last the whole day unless I use a harder hold gel then any I've tried so far. I too have gotten good results and thought I had hit a magic combo only to have the same products fail miserably the next several times I use them.

Maybe it's because I'm wavy not curly, maybe its because most wavies aren't as dry as curlies, maybe its just because I've mostly taken good care of my hair, but I don't think CG has helped me that much, its just made me frustrated that I can't get my hair to look good and feel good and be wavy at the same time.

I started out saying I wouldn't use stylers because I want to touch my hair, I want it to be soft and silky, but every day I woke up with limp, barely wavy hair was one more reason to try something else. I've tried lots of jellies and a few gels and mousses now and I'm still pretty much where I was when I started.

I think I need to accept that whatever degree of waviness I manage to achieve will be gone by lunch time. That my hair will still frizz when the weather and its mood dictates and I will still have to wear it up in order to calm and smooth it. I will look for a protein rich condish or no-hold styler to use as a leave-in that'll encourage my waves yet keep my hair soft, smooth and happy. I may still do the whole styling thing occasionally but right now I'm tired, I want to look like I 'did' my hair and I care how I look but this is too much work for mediocre results that are determined more by the weather than by anything I do or don't do.

So I guess my PJ will still be hunting regardless, at least I know this is mostly good for my hair and have learned a ton about ingredients. Always look on the bright side of life, as Monty Python says. (I don't know why you can't see his teeth, they're HUGE!!)
Originally Posted by Lynaea
There is a wavy hair community on Facebook. AFAIK no we cannot really touch our hair unless purposefully refreshing, that's part of the deal of not being able to brush or comb unfortunately.

I find tying my hair up or wearing it straight(ish) is the worst thing I can do, it can take three washes for my waves/ curls to recover from one straight style - and I don't use heat to get it.

Heat is only damaging over a certain temperature which you should not be reaching diffusing on a low setting. Some CG friendly ingredients you can use to help protect against it: was reading some good articles on the Natural Haven on this recently.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Eh. I still wide comb it. In fact it looks quite nice if I am not happy with the situation after drying. But my hair is not tangly and I'm gentle about it. I can see how finer hair would have trouble.
I find tying my hair up or wearing it straight(ish) is the worst thing I can do, it can take three washes for my waves/ curls to recover from one straight style - and I don't use heat to get it.

Heat is only damaging over a certain temperature which you should not be reaching diffusing on a low setting. Some CG friendly ingredients you can use to help protect against it: was reading some good articles on the Natural Haven on this recently.
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding you but just to clarify; I have been styling my hair wavy..... but since my hair is 2a on its own and maybe 2b when styled, it is only vaguely wavy to begin with. By midday the wave has started to fall out and it ends up essentially straight with a varying amount of flippy wave at the ends and if it was styled its sticky and stringy to boot. If I don't use stylers then my hair starts out 2a and at least I can get my fingers thru it to smooth flyaways or fix crazy bits. Also, i live in Florida and my hair is prone to poofiness most of the year, I'm not sure if its frizz, its more like it swells up, the only way to get it smooth and shiny instead of fried looking is to contain it for awhile till it calms down. My hair is BSL so its too heavy to wear in a ponytail or similar, if its misbehaving it generally ends up with the top pulled back in a clip or in a bun (or a braid etc if I have the time) I work in a lab around chemicals so I can't just leave it loose, if its looking good I just wear a headband but 'looking good' never seems to last.

I think most of my frustration is from wanting my hair to get/be wavier, I see all these wavies that start out with hair that looks worse than mine and barely wavy, then in a few weeks they are trying to decide whether their hair is 2c or 3a and I wonder what I'm doing wrong that my hair won't do that.

I think I just need to accept that my hair is not going to get any wavier than my current avitar and just focus on keeping it healthy which was my goal before the book and this website gave me the false hope of magically transforming my 2a hair into 3something spirals. I guess, like others who are mod-CG in other ways, I need to use the parts that work for me and ignore / avoid the heavy focus on stylers/styling/diffusing.

I like my hair, I like its versatility and that I can do braids and twists and other 'fancy' styles that most people don't do anymore, I like that its silky and shiny most of the time and I definitely like that I don't really have to style it if I don't want to. But the big push in CG is to use heavy stylers with complicated techniques and then keep your hands off and that part is not working for me.
2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
Firefox: I think most basic, cheap gels have glycerin in them, which is a humectant. I feel like my hair does a lot better with a hard hold gel in humid places like Alabama and Florida. Lynaea, Gel gives my hair the kind of hold that I can totally see, and prevents frizz, but at least the gel I use leaves my hair feeling soft and product-free after I scrunch out the crunch. That works way better for me than some jellies and moussed that have mostly left my hair sticky and producty.

Anyway, I've never been able to stick to the whole "don't touch your hair" rule. I totally touch my hair all the time. I twist the bottom on my fingers, I ruffle up the top with my hands, I run my fingers through my bangs to push them back, and I pull at the spirals sometimes when I'm bored. If I see a frizzy strand out of the corner of my eye, I'll twist it a little bit to make the hairs come back together. It doesn't really give me that much frizz, and I personally go for more of a messy head of waves then a perfect, every curl in it's place kind of look. I feel like that looks more soft and natural, while also being much easier to achieve.

Actually, when I decided that I would pretty much let my roots dry naturally even though my hair is pretty flat until it gets down to my eyebrows, and also deciding that a head full of big, messy waves looks nice, doing my hair became a lot easier. Like, I still apply products, but it's so much less stressful to just tell myself that however it dries is fine. And what helped is to realize that I was the only person who really noticed the difference between my good and bad hair days. As long as I have a fluffy head for of wavy hair, no one really sees a difference. The only exception to that is when I diffuse, because then it is noticeably curlier than when I don't.
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Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Dyed to brown a few months ago.
Lowpoo:
Trader Joe's TTT Shampoo
Rinse Out:
Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
LI: Yes to Carrots
Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse

Last edited by rainboe; 05-07-2013 at 09:39 PM.
Also, i live in Florida and my hair is prone to poofiness most of the year, I'm not sure if its frizz, its more like it swells up, the only way to get it smooth and shiny instead of fried looking is to contain it for awhile till it calms down.
Originally Posted by Lynaea
Us Southern girls are fighting a losing fight in trying to be as curly as possible, I think. Mostly, it's about keeping away the frizz. Damp in the winter, humid in the summer - it's hard to win against that.
Averages out at 2b, ranges from 1c to 3a, very fine
Mane 'n Tail co-wash + leave-in
Clarifying shampoo every few weeks
Lavender Allergy
Firefox: I think most basic, cheap gels have glycerin in them, which is a humectant. I feel like my hair does a lot better with a hard hold gel in humid places like Alabama and Florida. Lynaea, Gel gives my hair the kind of hold that I can totally see, and prevents frizz, but at least the gel I use leaves my hair feeling soft and product-free after I scrunch out the crunch. That works way better for me than some jellies and moussed that have mostly left my hair sticky and producty.

Anyway, I've never been able to stick to the whole "don't touch your hair" rule. I totally touch my hair all the time. I twist the bottom on my fingers, I ruffle up the top with my hands, I run my fingers through my bangs to push them back, and I pull at the spirals sometimes when I'm bored. If I see a frizzy strand out of the corner of my eye, I'll twist it a little bit to make the hairs come back together. It doesn't really give me that much frizz, and I personally go for more of a messy head of waves then a perfect, every curl in it's place kind of look. I feel like that looks more soft and natural, while also being much easier to achieve.

Actually, when I decided that I would pretty much let my roots dry naturally even though my hair is pretty flat until it gets down to my eyebrows, and also deciding that a head full of big, messy waves looks nice, doing my hair became a lot easier. Like, I still apply products, but it's so much less stressful to just tell myself that however it dries is fine. And what helped is to realize that I was the only person who really noticed the difference between my good and bad hair days. As long as I have a fluffy head for of wavy hair, no one really sees a difference. The only exception to that is when I diffuse, because then it is noticeably curlier than when I don't.
Originally Posted by rainboe
Thanks for the explanation/info Rainboe! Maybe I've been thinking about this backwards (that a real gel would be more producty), you're using the LALSP? I've tried to find that on the ground but my local Target/drugstores don't seem to have it. I've been considering GF pure clean gel or Abba finish (or maybe style) gel do you have any experience with those ( or any other gel you can reccomend really)?
2A / F / MD / LP / ?E / BSL --- CG since Dec. 2012

This is what I'm happiest with right now.
Co-wash: CJ DailyFix
Lo-poo: DermOrganic low-poo
RO: SS Caitlin's co
Leave-in: SheScentIt Okra Repair condish
PT: SS Caitlin's + SS PT
Stylers: Volumax Mega Gel, Max Green Styling Gel, DermOrganics Spray Gel
Techniques: Plopping & Pixie Diffusing.
glycerin, honey, oils & butters Protein!
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Not sure if I'm misunderstanding you but just to clarify; I have been styling my hair wavy..... but since my hair is 2a on its own and maybe 2b when styled, it is only vaguely wavy to begin with. By midday the wave has started to fall out and it ends up essentially straight with a varying amount of flippy wave at the ends and if it was styled its sticky and stringy to boot. If I don't use stylers then my hair starts out 2a and at least I can get my fingers thru it to smooth flyaways or fix crazy bits. Also, i live in Florida and my hair is prone to poofiness most of the year, I'm not sure if its frizz, its more like it swells up, the only way to get it smooth and shiny instead of fried looking is to contain it for awhile till it calms down. My hair is BSL so its too heavy to wear in a ponytail or similar, if its misbehaving it generally ends up with the top pulled back in a clip or in a bun (or a braid etc if I have the time) I work in a lab around chemicals so I can't just leave it loose, if its looking good I just wear a headband but 'looking good' never seems to last.

I think most of my frustration is from wanting my hair to get/be wavier, I see all these wavies that start out with hair that looks worse than mine and barely wavy, then in a few weeks they are trying to decide whether their hair is 2c or 3a and I wonder what I'm doing wrong that my hair won't do that.

I think I just need to accept that my hair is not going to get any wavier than my current avitar and just focus on keeping it healthy which was my goal before the book and this website gave me the false hope of magically transforming my 2a hair into 3something spirals. I guess, like others who are mod-CG in other ways, I need to use the parts that work for me and ignore / avoid the heavy focus on stylers/styling/diffusing.

I like my hair, I like its versatility and that I can do braids and twists and other 'fancy' styles that most people don't do anymore, I like that its silky and shiny most of the time and I definitely like that I don't really have to style it if I don't want to. But the big push in CG is to use heavy stylers with complicated techniques and then keep your hands off and that part is not working for me.
Originally Posted by Lynaea
What I was saying is don't run your fingers though it and don't tie it up even vaguely tight, finger combing is akin to brushing or combing, both can pull out wave and/ or create additional frizz. I can get away with gripping the front back super loose, that does not drag out the curl too much. I 'play' with individual curls all the time, I am a total addict, but I try not to mess with the bulk of the hair or I get pouf and lack of definition.

Find a gel or mousse that works for you, maybe run the flat of your hands either damp or with a little of a milk or spray coating them lightly over the surface to tame flyaways. The more curl and control you want the more hold you need yes, but that goes for any type of hairstyle. Hold doesn't necessarily go along with 'heavy' products, but perhaps you mean a different thing by 'heavy' than I do.

Totally agree modified CG works for some, but the modifications you seem to be hoping for appear to me to be fighting directly against your goals. Oftentimes it seems to me it's best to do full CG (not with complicated techniques, the basic is relatively simple) then add and subtract from there. Loads of people partially or wholly air dry, you would perhaps need to find a method that takes the weight out of your hair whilst doing so since you say it is quite long and heavy?
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Firefox: I think most basic, cheap gels have glycerin in them, which is a humectant. I feel like my hair does a lot better with a hard hold gel in humid places like Alabama and Florida. Lynaea, Gel gives my hair the kind of hold that I can totally see, and prevents frizz, but at least the gel I use leaves my hair feeling soft and product-free after I scrunch out the crunch. That works way better for me than some jellies and moussed that have mostly left my hair sticky and producty.
Originally Posted by rainboe
Maybe it's a UK/ US thing? Glycerin is not ubiquitous in basic gels here.
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect

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