Super Dry Hair

My hair is kind of an odd ball. Every single strand has it's own personality. It doesn't stay together at all, rather every hair is electromagnetically unattracted to the rest. They all separate from each other making my already thick hair look so much thicker (poofy).

It's also super dry. I deep condition it 1-2x/day with a conditioner that is supposed to be used monthly (if I don't it just breaks apart it's sooooo dry). I shampoo every day, because it is super greasy by morning.

I usually (trying to break the habit) end up brushing my hair after I've tried to make my curls happen. I know it doesn't help, but I get very frustrated trying to work with the curls and they come out so stupid looking. When I try to let my hair go curly, it gets frizzy. I usually brush my hair back and put it in a bun...only thing I seem to be able to do with it, and I am so sick of wearing my hair up all the time. My hair grows quite quickly, but because it is so fragile it breaks off and I end up having to cut it super short. Right now, it's shoulder length.

The CG thing didn't seem to be working for me at all. I cannot go a day without shampooing, my hair gets far too greasy. Of course, the top layers are super dry and poofy still, but the roots and inner layers are greasy and gross. I'm just about finished my current shampoo and conditioner, and I am willing to try almost anything to get my hair to look good. Willing to give CG a try again, if there is something I can do that'll help it not be so greasy by morning.

Please, help would be very appreciated.

I will try to post pictures in near future if it helps to see what I mean.

Please help!

I don't color my hair or use heat at all.
It takes 3 to 6 weeks for your hair to adjust to the CG routine. You might get the greasies the first week or so, especially if you use conditioner with silicones. Dryness causes frizziness. When your scalp is dried out, it works overtime producing oil to hydrate the hair, so when you stop stripping the hair of its natural oils, it takes a little while for your scalp to slow down oil production. If you shampoo with a harsh sulphate shampoo, the cycle of dryness/greasies starts all over again.

It's important to use the right products, too. If your hair is really thick, then it's probably prone to dryness and doesn't need shampoo, but too much conditioner or one with silicones will weigh hair down. So check your products, and if you are unsure whether they are CG friendly, then post the ingredients and someone can let you know.

In any case, you will have to be patient as your hair adjusts. Try washing your scalp with conditioner only a couple times a week and water wash with a good scalp scrub on the other days. Use conditioner every time you get it wet and rinse most or all of it out. Try using a gel, applying it to wet hair, scrunch out the drips with paper towels or a microfiber towel. Then don't mess with it while it air drys, or gently diffuse until almost dry. And don't brush it when it's dry! As you know already, that only makes it worse and causes your hair to break. (If you have to brush, do it when it's wet and has conditioner in it.)

Give CG a good try and in a few weeks you will probably be happy to have a bit more control over your healthy curls!
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Hi, here's some thoughts I had... everyone's hair is different though so ymmv!

First off, if the deep conditioner you're using daily has a lot of protein, you should change over to another conditioner. Extra protein can make some people's hair dry and brittle, so you might want to try a normal conditioner for dry hair.

You might also want to try oiling your hair. Lots of members here have had luck with coconut oil or jojoba oil. Coconut oil is available for cheap at superwalmart, jojoba is a bit tougher to come by. I find that a little (fingernail scrape worth) coconut oil on my hair while it's still wet helps with frizz some.

Shampooing daily is fine, but try not to get too much on the length, just wash your scalp where the oil is. I usually dilute shampoo in an old yogurt cup I keep in the shower and that seems to help distribute the shampoo while allowing me to use less.

Good Luck!
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Weeklyish shampoo with CO's inbetween to keep down the grease.
I agree with what teela said just wanted to add a couple things to it. Did you use conditioner exclusively? I have to use a gentle shampoo (organic) twice a week. I'd say that if you tried CG for less than a month, it wasn't long enough. The switch can be annoying at times, but it is well worth it! My hair was AWFUL for the first couple weeks (see my fotki for picture proof - LOL), but it soon adjusted and looked just great. I LOVE it now. Not that I don't have those days that make you want to shave your head, but they are much fewer and farther between.

Also, once you have your hair moisturized (with about 1 tsp the above mentioned oils scrunched in over night and rinsed out well), you will want to put in some gel (Aussie is my fave) into your wet hair BEFORE you towel it off. Now comes the hard part - DO NOT TOUCH IT. That is my frizzy cure all!

If all this doesn't work for you, or if you are confused about products or methodes, feel free to ask ask again!
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Thanks for your help.

I'm not sure if my conditioner has protein or not, but it probably does. I'll try to find one that doesn't have protein in it and try it for a while.
Can you post the names of your products?
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Hear that crash? It's me falling off the CG wagon.
I haven't been doing CG for a while, because I was recommended a product that wasn't CG and since I was at the point of wanting to chop off all my hair again (I really don't want to) I decided to give it a try. So, currently, I have been using Sunsilk Anti-Poof, but I also use Pantene Deep Intensive Moisturizing Mask daily.

I was told that Sunsilk Anti-Poof would work wonders for my hair, but obviously it has not changed anything. My hair is still poofy, and just plain crazy. (Yes, I know it has nasty zane's and cone's but I thought I'd give it a try.)

I plan to restart CG on Monday (since going to be away this weekend).

Since I don't have any of the products left that I used when doing CG, I have to buy all new stuff. I'm currently looking for products that are CG friendly. I've read on here lots of suggestive products, but none of them are available in my area, except Burt's Bees.

Was considering buying Burt's Bees, however, I read that it isn't moisturizing, and I know my hair requires lots of moisture.
I strongly recommend that you start using DevaCurl Low-Poo and One Condition, and a gel with more hold, such as Graham Webb Making Waves. The low poo helps with the need to shampoo and clean your scalp, and the one condition is moisturizing without making hair stringy, and the gel will help your hair clump better.

When my hair was super dry and over processed, I used these to bring it back to health, along with regular trims and putting coconut oil or jojoba oil on it at night. I will tell you that silicones make my hair stringy and poofy. Also be careful not to overcondition. I am thinking of starting this routine again since Colorado summers are so dry.
2a-3a

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Nature's Gate Awapuhi Volumizing Conditioner
Graham Webb Making Waves gel
jojoba or coconut oil as a DT

Hair is pretty great now that it's colder, now I'm focusing on my skin. Sniffle.
I strongly recommend that you start using DevaCurl Low-Poo and One Condition, and a gel with more hold, such as Graham Webb Making Waves. The low poo helps with the need to shampoo and clean your scalp, and the one condition is moisturizing without making hair stringy, and the gel will help your hair clump better.

When my hair was super dry and over processed, I used these to bring it back to health, along with regular trims and putting coconut oil or jojoba oil on it at night. I will tell you that silicones make my hair stringy and poofy. Also be careful not to overcondition. I am thinking of starting this routine again since Colorado summers are so dry.
2a-3a

Fotki: curlymeg

Nature's Gate Awapuhi Volumizing Conditioner
Graham Webb Making Waves gel
jojoba or coconut oil as a DT

Hair is pretty great now that it's colder, now I'm focusing on my skin. Sniffle.
I just did a clarifying wash on my hair and a DT. I just bought some products today so I got a little overeager - just couldn't wait - to use the products.

So I did a CW and a DT on my hair. I added honey to the DT which did leave my hair sticky I washed 3x with conditioner to get some of the sticky feeling out, was still mostly there though. I know it won't be over-conditioned. I don't think it's possible to OC my hair.

I used 2x the amount of gel I usually do. I bought a new gel and it didn't seem to do anything. It's supposed to be ultra strong hold, but only time will tell that.

I think the conditioner that I bought, I'm only going to use as a CO-wash. I'm going to have to find a stronger conditioner, since I really didn't like that it didn't get the sticky honey feeling out of my hair. Trying very hard to resist touching my hair as it dries, since I'm curious if the sticky feeling is gone yet. But I will resist the temptation.

I think I'll try EVOO instead of honey next time...or at least cut back on the honey by quite a bit.
What new products did you pick up/ are you using now?
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I bought Freeman Papaya and Lime conditioner and Down Under Naturals Ultimate Hold Gel.

Definitely didn't have much success, the back of my hair came out barely wavy and the front came out curly...looks ridiculous. Lots of frizz even after DT.

Not sure what to do about it.

But hey, it's only day 1
A lot of people find that the Freeman conditioners aren't moisturizing enough.
Have you tried the Activate 'poo and co? They're really good and moisturizing and fairly inexpensive (for now... there might be a price hike coming so I'd suggest picking some up ASAP if you want to try it)
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I think I'll try EVOO instead of honey next time...or at least cut back on the honey by quite a bit.
Originally Posted by aaa00a
Try EVOO mixed with honey and conditoner; it won't stick in your hair that way and gives you a moisture treatment you can rinse out. Don't use too much EVOO either; could get greasy. ETA -- if you're just starting CG you may not need oil at all; your scalp is going to start producing more...

It may take a couple of weeks for the CG results to start showing so be patient. Also make sure to get all those silicones from the Sunsilk out of your hair.
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I don't think that Activate is sold in Canada...at least I haven't seen it. I don't want to have to spend $20US+ for it to buy online at this point.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

I am going to clarify ones a week for about a month to make sure that all of the silicones from the products I've been using are out of my hair.

Out of curiousity, I was reading the ingredients to one of the products that I had used occasionally because even though it's supposed to "cure" frizz, it help even slightly, but it does give me more shine then I've ever seen on any head before! Which I loved! However, the ingredients are: Octamethylcyclotetrasiloxane, Decamethylcyclotetrasiloxane, Hexanethyl Cyclotrisiloxane

not impressed. So, I have oodles of -zanes and -cones to get out of my hair. - Thus, I feel I need to clarify once a week for a month to help get all those badies out. Good thing I only used it occasionally.

Thanks for all your help. Any further suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I think one clarifying shampoo would be enough to get the cones out of your hair. You dont want to clarify to much because that is usually drying to your hair. You could try the Lemon aid its moisturizing and removes buildup. You just have to use the juice of one lemon with your usual amount of conditioner. Its recommended to clarify very dry or damaged hair

There are a few things that might help your hair I can think of. If you you want to try conditioning wash again which would be great for your dry hair. Apply conditioner to your scalp and let it sit on there while you shower. Make sure you scrub your scalp with your finger just like you would shampoo. Then rinse and apply a heavier conditioner to your length

I do a CWC several times a week my scalp is just happier that way. My hair is also so fine that it gets build up and flat if I dont. I apply conditioner on the length first. Then apply about a tsp of shampoo in about an ounce of water and with one of those squirt bottles used to do color I squirt that onto my scalp. I then rinse really well and then apply a heavier conditioner to the length and leave it on while I finish my shower.

When Im going to wash my hair the next day I put my hair up in a high pony and dampen the ends and apply conditioner then oil (I use coconut, or almond oil, or shea butter)leave that in over night. I can just CO wash that out the next morning.

When my ends where really dry and damaged I had a mister filled with a few drops of conditoner and oil I would spray that on my hair alot during the day. I have also been recommended to just fill the mister with EVOO and spritz it on dry hair every few days for dry hair. I havent tried this one yet because like I said my hair so fine and thin it would get to flat. If you had a fine mister though for thicker hair I think this would be great.

Can you get Jessie Curl there I give Too Shea the credit for saving my dried out hair. You need to find a moisturizing conditioner and only do protein treatments when your hair needs them. To much protein can make your hair dry and brittle. I am sending you an excellant article I read telling you how to recognize what your hair needs http://p069.ezboard.com/fblackbeauty...icID=652.topic

Ok I have rambled on long enough with my advice. This is an excellant group and very helpful just be patient you will figure you hair out

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