Any 2C girls using CK???

I recently ordered CK and hoping it will take away this FRIZZ. I want to go 2 days w/o washing it just takes too long to air dry and using the blowdryer makes it FRIZZ more so I do 1/2 and 1/2. My routine when washing is such an ordeal it seems ridiculous to plan my day around washing my hair!!! My hair is VERY thick, dry, coarse and hard to curl but it's WAY worse trying to straighten it I gave up on that 2yrs ago but still struggling with the CG routine. Right now I use Deva No Poo, Conditioner, B-Leave in, Recoil and Set it Free when it's dry. Any other advice??
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I haven't had any luck with CK, and recently sent some to another member as a sample. Everyone seems to love it so I'm holding on to the remainder, but frankly, it hasn't done anything for my 2C curls. And I don't like the smell.

However, I don't have frizz, so it may not be the product for me. If I were you, I would start trying a far wider variety of products, since it sounds like Deva isn't helping you to manage what your hair does naturally. Lots of people (including me) like KCKT and KCCC, Jessicurl, AO, BRHG, and other products. Keep trying things; you can always sell or swap what you buy and don't like.

HTH
I haven't had any luck with CK, and recently sent some to another member as a sample. Everyone seems to love it so I'm holding on to the remainder, but frankly, it hasn't done anything for my 2C curls. And I don't like the smell.

However, I don't have frizz, so it may not be the product for me. If I were you, I would start trying a far wider variety of products, since it sounds like Deva isn't helping you to manage what your hair does naturally. Lots of people (including me) like KCKT and KCCC, Jessicurl, AO, BRHG, and other products. Keep trying things; you can always sell or swap what you buy and don't like.

HTH
Originally Posted by ninja dog
Thanks for your reply, I wish I could see your hair instead of the cute pup I can't even beging to list the amt of product I've tried. I do love the Deva NoPoo and Conditioner, mixed feelings on the Set it Free. I jsut need a good Gel or Cream that doesn't build up or make my head itch the next day!! Jessicurl was AWFUL for me, to greasy and didn't hold. You'll have to forgive me I know somewhere on this site (I can't find it now that I need it!) There is a list of what these abbrev. means. Could you help me out? What is: KCKT and KCCC AO, BRHG? Can I ask what your routine is, how often you no-poo what products & in what order you use them? Is your hair very thick?
I didn't have any luck with the CK either. I've gone back to it a couple of times just because everyone seems to like it so much but it did nothing for me. I tried FOTE AVG (Fruit of the Earth Aloe Vera Gel) today for the first time because it was highly recommended by other users and man I had a great hair day----probably the best ever!

KCCC=Kinky Curly Curling Custard
KCKT=Kinky Curly Knot Today
I haven't had a chance to try those yet but many people here rave about them
Are you serious? Aloe Gel and that's it? That gives you enough hold even in the humidity?? Can I ask you as well, what your routine is, how often you no-poo what products & in what order you use them? Is your hair very thick?
Thanks for the Reply!!!
I use Suave Tropical Coconut conditioner to CO wash and I use a pea size amount as a leave in. Then I raked the aloe vera gel throughout my hair and I added a little bit of Salon Selectives gel over the aloe vera gel. I raked it through, scrunched, and let it air dry. It dried slightly crunchy but was easily scrunched out. I couldn't believe that I had such a good hair day with only these 2 styling products (and they are pretty cheap which is my favorite part).

My hair is thick and tends to be on the drier side. Most styling products leave it looking frizzy and dull with no definition. Today it had a very healthy/moisturized looking shine-----different than that fake product-looking shine that I usually get with most styling products. HTH


I just hope that it lasts!
oops, sorry---I CO wash about every other day. Tomorrow will be the test to see if I can get second day hair with this routine.
I have 2C/3A hair and I use CK practically every day (at least when it's this humid). My hair is fine and medium thickness, but it gets frizzy. The CK helps a lot.

I don't like the scent. It is too chemical-smelling for me, but the scent fades quickly and CK works so well, I don't care. CK doesn't have any hold though. You will still need to use a gel or something for hold. There are some people who use it alone, but they tend to be curlier than us 2s.
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I just hate it when I think I've got a routine down and then it stops working! I'm so sick of trying different products, I thought the CG method was supposed to alleviate all of this product obsession, but unfortunately Gel just stopped working all of a sudden and then the whole Deva Line has you using A LOT of stuff piled on top of each other and it's just too much GOO. Good Luck tomorrow! Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
I have 2C/3A hair and I use CK practically every day (at least when it's this humid). My hair is fine and medium thickness, but it gets frizzy. The CK helps a lot.

I don't like the scent. It is too chemical-smelling for me, but the scent fades quickly and CK works so well, I don't care. CK doesn't have any hold though. You will still need to use a gel or something for hold. There are some people who use it alone, but they tend to be curlier than us 2s.
Originally Posted by LoloDSM
Well I'm glad to hear that there is a 2 out there that this stuff works for! I didn't think that it would be enough hold. I was thinking of maybe trying the TWEEK for extra hold? It's getting RAVE reviews, we'll see if it keeps up. It's EXPENSIVE though!
I have 2C/3A hair and I use CK practically every day (at least when it's this humid). My hair is fine and medium thickness, but it gets frizzy. The CK helps a lot.

I don't like the scent. It is too chemical-smelling for me, but the scent fades quickly and CK works so well, I don't care. CK doesn't have any hold though. You will still need to use a gel or something for hold. There are some people who use it alone, but they tend to be curlier than us 2s.
Originally Posted by LoloDSM
Well I'm glad to hear that there is a 2 out there that this stuff works for! I didn't think that it would be enough hold. I was thinking of maybe trying the TWEEK for extra hold? It's getting RAVE reviews, we'll see if it keeps up. It's EXPENSIVE though!
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I think there are quite a few 2s who use CK. This board just isn't as active as the general one. Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee (BRHG) is available at Target, CVS, and Wal-Greens. It's a wonderful strong hold gel that works well with CK. It costs about $13 a tube.
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CK works for me as well...it seems that I have thinner hair than you, but it works great on the frizz. It's more of a curl definer, not a curl enhancer...I can use it alone if it's humid out, but need a gel over it if it's not. Tweek is more of a curl refresher/fluffer/foofer, if that makes any sense. See if you can find CK on the swap board and try it out, otherwise Curlmart and CHS sell a smaller bottle for around $8. Good luck!
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Hi, DEL2C,

So I see that wavy/curlies have mixed responses to CK. I think it's an anti-frizz product, mainly.

AO stands for Aubrey Organics. A lot of members like this company's conditioners (sold at Whole Foods), particularly the Honeysuckle Rose. I tried a lavender shampoo and it smelled horrid! (And I love lavender.) So, while I have no personal raves for the AO brand, everyone else seems to.

My routine changes from day to day. I often forget how recently I've shampooed, but my best guess is that I do so about 3 or 4 times a week. One of those shampoos is a detox with Elucence. FrizzBeGone, another member (who is wonderful with very specific instructions and products, btw), recommended Elucense, and it does work very well as a gentle but thorough detox.

Right now, I'm trying the Denman brush routine, since I really need both better product distribution and clumping. This is a method wherein you actually brush a leave-in or product such as Kinky Curly Curling Custard through your very wet hair. Some users brush twice; there are a variety of ways of using this method.

I'm not sure it would work for you because you describe your hair as being coarse, yet not very curly. When you do have curl, what does it look like? I'm wondering if reading the posts on the type "4" board would help you.

I know that Deva aims to be the be-all and end-all of curly hair method and products, but it just isn't. There are so many options it forgoes, such as plopping, pineappling, oil treatments --- all kinds of things that many members here swear by. As FrizzBeGone said to me, it's a good starting place, but.....it can't be all things to all curlies.

HTH --- feel free to pm me, too.
I use CK and a ton of it at that. My hair was very poufy pre-CK and the only way I could keep the pouf down was a lot of gel, a lot of conditioner left-in, or both.

It's pretty much the only product I use in the summer. I expect I'll be back to it and gel in the fall/winter.
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I use CK and a ton of it at that. My hair was very poufy pre-CK and the only way I could keep the pouf down was a lot of gel, a lot of conditioner left-in, or both.

It's pretty much the only product I use in the summer. I expect I'll be back to it and gel in the fall/winter.
Originally Posted by whatsercurl
Well if I can get my POOFY and Coarse hair to look like YOURS I'll be downright ecstatic! I obsess with my hair and I really thought I was unusually fantatical but reading these threads has made me feel a lot better and not like some kind of FREAK *LOL* I'm keeping my fingers crossed that CK is the miracle product I've been searching for! Thanks for your input.
Awah Thank you

And never a need to feel weird about being hair obsessed here. Your friends and family may never understand but we sure do!
Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
Current Experiment: S&C by D

Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs


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Awah Thank you

And never a need to feel weird about being hair obsessed here. Your friends and family may never understand but we sure do!
Originally Posted by whatsercurl
Can I ask you something else? Do you spritz your hair with water on non wash days? With my current routine, if I add a drop of water that's it POOF and FRIZZ. If anything I have to use a bit of Set it Free and that seems to help but with CK you're supposed to wet it on non wash days right?? I was looking at your fotki and you get such definition it's beautiful! That's day2 hair? My hair will get more definition when I wash it and it's still damp, but once it's dry that's when the Frizz starts.
Yes I do spritz. I wait until about 10 min after I take out my pineapple when it's "settled" down a bit. I spritz and take a small amount of CK to smooth over the canopy. Depending on what day I'm on I may substitute gel (usually on Day 2 or 3). If there's straight or really frizzy pieces, I do the twirl thing shown on the Frizzoff.com website then re-scrunch. I do get a bit of frizz but not enough to make me want to go through the whole process of re-wetting and re-drying.

In my fotki, there's a folder of morning hair. I took it this morning about 5 min after taking out my pineapple. That's Day 5 hair so there is some frizz and I'll have to fix some curls as mentioned above. If I remember, I'll take and post an after pic later today.

For me, the CK is what gives the definition. In fact, my hair looks better from Day 2 on than it does Day 1. At least to me. Before I started using it, I had the same issues you're describing.

HTH
Current Products: CJ Products: CF, DF, CT, SG, AFG, CIAB AND CK is back!
Current Experiment: S&C by D

Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs


Sulphate and cone free since July 2007

wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

http://public.fotki.com/whatsercurl/

PW: wavycurly

Seek not to change the world. Rather seek to change your mind about the world.
I was 2c when I started CG. I love CK - I think its great for ANY hair that frizzes. I wouldnt dream of skipping it - the ONLY products I DONT use it under are KCKT/KCCC combo.
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I was 2c when I started CG. I love CK - I think its great for ANY hair that frizzes. I wouldnt dream of skipping it - the ONLY products I DONT use it under are KCKT/KCCC combo.
Originally Posted by rudeechick
Wow! SO CK transformed you from a 2C to a 2C/3A? That's my hair dream come true!! Maybe I should start a new thread entitled looking for 2C transformations, because frankly I'm not in love with my hair at the moment I'm extremely frustrated with it and at my wits end!!!! If I thought cutting it short would solve my problem I would, but that will just take the curl out and leave me a gigantic POOOOOOF, been there done that don't want to go down that road again.
Thanks for your input!

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